[Official] Spy discussion

[Wh1tE_Dw4rF]

I made the seconds up. Who says it all final? Am I a lead designer of PS?

[Roberto1223]

white dwarfs idea is good.

if you want a shorter humiliation move, maybe consider implementing the move sam fisher did when interrogating where he would hit the mercs head with his fist as if he were knocking on a door. idk something like that..

[VaNilla]

I made the seconds up. Who says it all final? Am I a lead designer of PS?

Did I say it's final or that you're the lead designer of PS? If you have an idea and post it, be prepared for criticism, you can't exactly come back on that with the point that you 'made it up'.

[Wh1tE_Dw4rF]

If you fail to see the bigger picture then do not criticise.

[Farley4Fan]

Nothing is more humiliating than getting gum stuck on your shoe.  New humiliating gadget.  A Chewing Gum Mine.  Select the gadget from your menu, chew it, and stick it in designated spot on the floor, and watch the embarrassment ensue.  Dog shit variation now available.

Make it happen.

Actually, ever have a dream where you go to school with nothing but your underwear?  How about this.  Hallucinogen Gas capsule on your arm.  You grab the enemy, deploy gas, and watch the merc or spy randomly strut about hiding behind boxes to avoid the embarrassment from the laughter of his peers.

Make it happen.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

How about having the spy grab the merc from behind, hit him hard so that he's still conscious but unable to do anything, then turn the merc around, have the spy lift him up a bit so he can't move, and then the spy should say something, like "Hello there, sissy" or something equally humiliating.

Merc	Spy
Grabbed	Holding the merc, like in CT
Nothing, maybe tries to break free.	Disables the mercs movement capabilities (in some way)
Nothing, watches	Turns the merc around so that they're face to face
Nothing, watches	Lifts the merc slightly
Nothing, watches	Says something creepy/ humiliating
Nothing, watches	Finishing move (headbutt, strangling, whatever)

And all this should take perhaps about 3-4 seconds.

[Wh1tE_Dw4rF]

How about having the spy grab the merc from behind, hit him hard so that he's still conscious but unable to do anything, then turn the merc around, have the spy lift him up a bit so he can't move, and then the spy should say something, like "Hello there, sissy" or something equally humiliating.

Merc	Spy
Grabbed	Holding the merc, like in CT
Nothing, maybe tries to break free.	Disables the mercs movement capabilities (in some way)
Nothing, watches	Turns the merc around so that they're face to face
Nothing, watches	Lifts the merc slightly
Nothing, watches	Says something creepy/ humiliating
Nothing, watches	Finishing move (headbutt, strangling, whatever)

And all this should take perhaps about 3-4 seconds.

Remember that the spies are agile, not some bruut that can lift up a merc in armour withour breaking a sweat.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

Remember that the spies are agile, not some bruut that can lift up a merc in armour withour breaking a sweat.

So? It's just a humiliation move, I didn't say the spy should be throwing 200kg boxes at the mercs ::)

[VaNilla]

Remember that the spies are agile, not some bruut that can lift up a merc in armour withour breaking a sweat.

If you fail to see the bigger picture then do not criticise.

[Wh1tE_Dw4rF]

Remember that the spies are agile, not some bruut that can lift up a merc in armour withour breaking a sweat.

If you fail to see the bigger picture then do not criticise.

My comment is perfectly acceptable.

[Farley4Fan]

What else is humiliating?  Oh yes!  Rejection from women (or so I've heard lol).

How about a sexy spy robot drone?  She would roll around and say "you're ugly" or "you smell like cheese and look poor".  This humiliation move would only be accessible after grabbing the merc.  Maybe while the merc is grabbed the sexy drone would come out, pull down the merc's pants, and tell the merc how small his penis is (as if the spy telling you that in your ear wasn't enough).  How humiliating?

[Westfall]

How about having the spy grab the merc from behind, hit him hard so that he's still conscious but unable to do anything, then turn the merc around, have the spy lift him up a bit so he can't move, and then the spy should say something, like "Hello there, sissy" or something equally humiliating.

Merc	Spy
Grabbed	Holding the merc, like in CT
Nothing, maybe tries to break free.	Disables the mercs movement capabilities (in some way)
Nothing, watches	Turns the merc around so that they're face to face
Nothing, watches	Lifts the merc slightly
Nothing, watches	Says something creepy/ humiliating
Nothing, watches	Finishing move (headbutt, strangling, whatever)

And all this should take perhaps about 3-4 seconds.

Remember that the spies are agile, not some bruut that can lift up a merc in armour withour breaking a sweat.

Not that I support what Roberto is saying, but the spies agility and strength would be close to equal considering all of the acrobatics they tend to do. Yes they are speedy, but they are not some weak piece of shit. They would be able to lift themselves with ease, therefore lifting another human also well built and equally agile doesn't seem to be a task.

[Wh1tE_Dw4rF]

Ofcourse they could lift up a merc if they wanted to. It's just compared to let's say the SvM merc humiliation it is a bit lengthy animation wise. But then again, I/We still don't really know wether animations will be as sluggish as in SvM (animations need to finish before you can do something else).


Though what would be nice is to add to Random Person his idea is that the spy, who useally carry suicide pills incase of a capture. to use 1 of his suicide pills to disable the merc long enough to humiliate before the pills final effect kicks in. This also secures a certain death for the merc incase the spy has to run or get's killed by the other merc.

[frvge]

Most of our animations will be 'cancellable'. Only when it's needed of course...

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

use 1 of his suicide pills to disable the merc long enough to humiliate before the pills final effect kicks in.

This could work quite well, but have him inject the stuff instead.
Digestion takes way too long, while injections, on the other hand, kick in quite quickly.
Also, how about having the spy just bitchslap the merc?