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Started by DreadStunLock, July 13, 2010, 11:41:51 PM

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unskilled

Quote from: CurdyMilk on July 14, 2010, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: Farley4Fan on July 14, 2010, 09:56:52 AM
If there will be some sort of unlockable gear then I don't see a problem with skins.  I don't know how Kebab and Co would feel about making extra skins since they put so much work/time/effort into designing just that one spy.  Maybe extra skins would make the default skin less of an icon.  Maybe not.  But if they want to make extra skins for us to unlock then I don't have a problem.
There could just be simple modifications to the current skin without making entirely new ones.  Maybe allow the spy to change the color of the goggles and glowing green stuff to other colors.  Same idea with the merc.  That way it doesn't waste precious time making new skins but it is still a little different.
Hey wait!
As spy we should see when merc is using MT ( Red Goggles ) and EMF ( Blue Goggles ) it is part of gameplay. For Example I use slow walk when he is using MT and his vision won't notice me, but i can run when he is using EMF far away from me.

Ion.67

Who the hell cares about skins? Let them finish the game and then worry about skins. Actually, never worry about skins. Seriously. Ya'll got downs.

Cronky

I remember this conversation from before!

Ranking systems in my opinion are good. For the competitive types, and for those who like to know their opponents before they start up the match. Simple statistical rank that is always being counted would work out just fine. Added to little text lines for the server names (ie "Noob only server") would just give a check to see what you're about to get into.

Having achievements and unlockables (that have no gameplay altering factors) such as skins are also good in my opinion. While there is always going to be people who make things such as Idle or Achievement servers, there are those who simply like acknowledgment for playing the game.

As for how new skins should work... Spies could have their lights/goggles change color, Mercs could have their suits change camouflage patterns.

Knocking an idea like those mentioned here down simply because a minute amount of people are going to "cheat the system" is bad rationalizing to me. There will always be people that exploit stuff when it is found. There is no way to rid yourself of them completely.

Plus... Ranks/Achievements/Alternate Skins will (In Theory) keep Smurf Accounts to a minimum. Which in my eyes is a good thing.


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DreadStunLock

Quote from: Spekkio on July 14, 2010, 07:33:48 PM
QuoteWhy neckgrabs? neckgrabs should be the last on resort on Story....I mean
No, they aren't.

Yes it is, I rather skip a person make him think there is nothing there, and then hack something unexpectedly...

If you grab someone the teammate of the opposing team will be alerted and there is a high chance he will get you Headshotted....

Farley4Fan

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Quote from: DreadStunLock on July 14, 2010, 06:58:25 PM
It's also would be nice to give such minor changes because you would be able to distinguish who is who...

You can't be serious.

Although maybe not cause then the weak ones will be targeted the most.. :S, but I don't think that will be a problem since you will not be able to see their goggle colour fast enough, since you will need to land a headshot and since their head is always on the move it will be difficult.

This makes no sense.

But yeah changing goggle colour would be really great.

Yeah I agree.  You should have cut your post to just this part.

Also for the neckgrab achievement and the fact that some idiots would charge onto a merc and end up killing himself, that only going to be his fault and it will not affect the gameplay at all, it just shows how stupid people can get and it will teach them of how to control themselves..

Achievements will not make your merc's/spy's penis/vagina bigger/smaller.

I would say no but I don't really care.  I doubt the devs would put something like this in the game.


CurdyMilk

Quote from: unskilled on July 14, 2010, 08:00:35 PM
Hey wait!
As spy we should see when merc is using MT ( Red Goggles ) and EMF ( Blue Goggles ) it is part of gameplay. For Example I use slow walk when he is using MT and his vision won't notice me, but i can run when he is using EMF far away from me.
The spy can already see what vision the merc is using.  All you have to do is look at his goggles.  It's not hard.

Farley4Fan

He was saying that mercs shouldn't be able to change visor colors for customization.  Camo patterns would be fine.

Why are we talking about this?  We r so bored lawl

Ion.67

God you guys suck. Maybe you would like an anal sex theme for the mercs and a blow job only spy theme?

Cronky

Quote from: Ion.67 on July 15, 2010, 05:54:39 AM
God you guys suck. Maybe you would like an anal sex theme for the mercs and a blow job only spy theme?

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Farley4Fan

Quote from: Ion.67 on July 15, 2010, 05:54:39 AM
God you guys suck. Maybe you would like an anal sex theme for the mercs and a blow job only spy theme?

You like to troll a lot lately. 

Spekkio

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Yea but he's right.

It's fine that you guys want to brainstorm on some intricate ranking system, but the bottom line is that the game has been in production for over 4 years now. What in the world makes you think that they will be able to build this intricate system and additional achievements without sacrificing game content that actually matters?

"Well, we have a beta where the game crashes everytime the spy grabs a merc and he uses the tazer while held, but thank god we can unlock moar spy skins!"

Ranking systems without a robust automatch feature don't work. The only people who care about building points for achievements are fat 12 year olds, people who get beat up at school, fat adults who don't have jobs because they played too many video games as a fat 12 year old, and Korean immigrants.

DreadStunLock

Yeah you are 100% seriously...

But I got to ask one more question because it has been killing me and my friend for weeks now.

One of my friends on Xfire told me this year and at the end of his August there is a chance of Project Stealth Beta? Can anyone help me out with this is it a small fact or not true at all? Thanks. (I am not asking the release date I just want to know if it's true)

frvge

We hope something is playable for devs then. Lennard gave that date, and just like mine, it's not a promise, but a general indication. For devs.
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DreadStunLock

Ok cool, now I can sleep well :) Thanks alot.

Cronky

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Quote from: Spekkio on July 15, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
Yea but he's right.

It's fine that you guys want to brainstorm on some intricate ranking system, but the bottom line is that the game has been in production for over 4 years now. What in the world makes you think that they will be able to build this intricate system and additional achievements without sacrificing game content that actually matters?

"Well, we have a beta where the game crashes everytime the spy grabs a merc and he uses the tazer while held, but thank god we can unlock moar spy skins!"

Ranking systems without a robust automatch feature don't work. The only people who care about building points for achievements are fat 12 year olds, people who get beat up at school, fat adults who don't have jobs because they played too many video games as a fat 12 year old, and Korean immigrants.

I always find it amazing that you can't picture that features that some people may want wouldn't have to be added immediately.

You're right, achievements aren't needed and under certain circumstances ranking is flawed. At no point though was it said that they NEED to have this on Day 1 of Beta, or even the Launch. Just that it should be added to the game.

It'd be like playing Tetris without the increasing levels and with no point system. Some people will be pleased simply by the stacking and destroying of blocks, but without any signs of progress many will just find themselves getting bored very quickly.

Again you're right about the fact that they are pieces of content that don't matter as much as say... the Gadgets properly working, but I just don't like it when you assume that people that suggest ideas want their idea to be Priority #1 on what the PS Devs should make.
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