Jumping and turning ?

[Spekkio]

Yeah, says a guy who thinks he knows everything about the world, stop trying to be like you know everything about versus you dumb racist fuck, don't even reply to my posts because you are not even a human to me.

Back to the topic: If you don't like BS, find another way around it.

Based on the way you used the word in your post, racist doesn't mean what you think it means.

You're an idiot because you think that any attempt at a neck grab is DM and that the game 'should' be played with no interaction between spies and mercs. Unfortunately, Ubi titled both of their games "Stealth action." Winning without taking out the mercs is not only impossible, but also boring.

I have found other ways around it, but the fact of the matter is that the so-called BS contributes to the extremely skewed merc win:loss ratio. Additionally, most of the BS is inconsistent BS. It's much harder to deal with something when it only sometimes happens.

[DreadStunLock]

Hey Agent, about the:

"side note : already have done things on the side but just throwing this out there because id like to become an official pro-active member of the project."

How is that coming along? Oh that right you completely failed because you still think you are the TOP PLAYA OF PS AND YOU THINK YOU ARE MEGA UBER DUBER AND YET YOU NEVER PLAYED THE GAME <Breathes heavily> Why should I give respect to an idiot who gave a racist remark to the people from poland when he doesn't know jackshit about it? Agent go back and keep ass kissing those who really "LOVE YOU".

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

[Spekkio]

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

Yea, you can easily win without taking out a merc, provided you're playing a pair of booger eating nubs who can't figure out how to left click on the spy typing on the laptop.

We should play sometime, and you can agree not to grab, jump or cam me and we'll see how many games you can win with your uber stealth.

Also, are you honestly defending funny-punching? We aren't in a game of SvM, and I'm not bitching that you killed me because you forced a funny punch. It's a stupid mechanism based on an animation glitch that doesn't belong in any video game, let alone one which hopes to draw a competitive audience.

Next thing you're going to tell me that insta-nades and crooked poison mines are totally cool, too.

[Farley4Fan]

Why would there be funny punches in PS?  I just don't get this.

[DreadStunLock]

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

Yea, you can easily win without taking out a merc, provided you're playing a pair of booger eating nubs who can't figure out how to left click on the spy typing on the laptop.

We should play sometime, and you can agree not to grab, jump or cam me and we'll see how many games you can win with your uber stealth.

Also, are you honestly defending funny-punching? We aren't in a game of SvM, and I'm not bitching that you killed me because you forced a funny punch. It's a stupid mechanism based on an animation glitch that doesn't belong in any video game, let alone one which hopes to draw a competitive audience.

Next thing you're going to tell me that insta-nades and crooked poison mines are totally cool, too.

No the fact that I learned a valuable lesson, Crooked mines are 100% removable, and dodgeable. Insta-nades not like anyone knows how to do 100% bug so it always does that.

Spekkio, to win without taking out a mercenary is just involving.....no, I won't actually tell you that part, learn it yourself.

The fact is, a lot of people bash and bash the bugs when they are too stupid to even try to realise on how to avoid them, and hell it's easy as hell to do so, really try it. Crooked mines are harmless and same as any other mine.

[Farley4Fan]

It's easy to avoid funny punches by not grabbing mercs?  I don't think I follow.  The fact remains that they are at least a bit annoying, like rail walking, and obviously should not be in PS.  Why would they be?  I don't see how someone can defend bugs dread lol

[Spark Mandriller]

Didn't Spekkio come second in that tournament ages ago?

Because y'know that would suggest that he doesn't suck all that much.

[CurdyMilk]

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

Yea, you can easily win without taking out a merc, provided you're playing a pair of booger eating nubs who can't figure out how to left click on the spy typing on the laptop.

Have to agree with Spekkio on this one.  Anybody who has any idea what is going on will not let you win without being seen.  Maybe dread has been playing against nubs the whole time and hasn't realized it.

(I can eat my boogers and left click on the spy typing on the laptop at the same time.  I know, it takes some talent.)   ;D

[puuusianka]

(I can eat my boogers and left click on the spy typing on the laptop at the same time.  I know, it takes some talent.)   ;D

Pro!

[DreadStunLock]

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

Yea, you can easily win without taking out a merc, provided you're playing a pair of booger eating nubs who can't figure out how to left click on the spy typing on the laptop.

Have to agree with Spekkio on this one.  Anybody who has any idea what is going on will not let you win without being seen.  Maybe dread has been playing against nubs the whole time and hasn't realized it.

(I can eat my boogers and left click on the spy typing on the laptop at the same time.  I know, it takes some talent.)   ;D


Yeah, good luck stopping one of the spies when they hack 2 objectives simultaneously.

[AgentX_003]

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

Yea, you can easily win without taking out a merc, provided you're playing a pair of booger eating nubs who can't figure out how to left click on the spy typing on the laptop.

Have to agree with Spekkio on this one.  Anybody who has any idea what is going on will not let you win without being seen.  Maybe dread has been playing against nubs the whole time and hasn't realized it.

soooo noob that he might wanna take some pointers :

http://www.filefront.com/17903538/speksnoobguide_SCCTVERSUS.pdf

[puuusianka]

Lol Spekkio, you clearly suck at versus, you can so easily win without taking out a mercenary, it's called heavy teamplay you retard. Of course who am I kidding, you never really shown any part of knowledge of knowing versus. Neither have I, but atleast I don't bitch about being funny punched like you do.

Yea, you can easily win without taking out a merc, provided you're playing a pair of booger eating nubs who can't figure out how to left click on the spy typing on the laptop.

Have to agree with Spekkio on this one.  Anybody who has any idea what is going on will not let you win without being seen.  Maybe dread has been playing against nubs the whole time and hasn't realized it.

soooo noob that he might wanna take some pointers :

http://www.filefront.com/17903538/speksnoobguide_SCCTVERSUS.pdf

Agent! You've been reading! ^^

[NeoSuperior]

[...]Crooked mines are 100% removable, and dodgeable[...]

WOW pls tell me how to remove poison in deftech building C back-entrance...

i cannot shoot my chaff far enough...

[ShadowX]

Dread, you seem to be forgetting that the other team can also have a heavy teamplay. And your whole "2 hacks simultaneously" is nullified by having teamwork on the merc side, 2 mercs can easily take down 2 objective hacking spies because they don't have to worry about getting double teamed.

Any good merc team will have their sectors covered in a way so that a) all objectives are taken care of by at least one merc and b) positioning so that if the other one needs help it can be done fast enough. Thus it makes your whole 'full stealth' practically impossible without taking out the merc, and when confronting mercs all kind of shit starts to hit the fan. Insta-nades, funny punch, the whole jumping and turning stuff. There are ways to avoid some of them, I'm not denying that. Still the point stands, against a skilled merc team, even with a great teamwork you can hardly ever win without dealing with the mercs in some way.

Stop playing random public people who don't have teamwork and start playing against actual teams, and teammates who know each others playstyles and adapt theirs accordingly, you won't be getting far by trying not to oppose the merc.

I also always found it weird how the cam gas can instantly make a merc fall asleep, but if he gets cammed at the start of a charge, he can run the full length of a charge, smack the spy and then suddenly fall asleep.

[puuusianka]

I also always found it weird how the cam gas can instantly make a merc fall asleep, but if he gets cammed at the start of a charge, he can run the full length of a charge, smack the spy and then suddenly fall asleep.

seriously - he knows that.