Gadget ideas/concepts.

[Westfall]

Nice try attempting a flame Gaiwan. SCLamers for that lame ish.

[Gawain]

wasnt an attempt for a flame war. i just stated the obvious.
papa skull, if you really think you are as experienced as me or even as experienced as the players i mentioned why don't you get used to the pc controls and kick our as? oh and dont say "i dont wanna play ct, i want a next-level ct/ps".
oh and i have nothing against console players, maybe you noticed that i dont have any problem with invisible (who would certainly kick your ass on console).

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

(who would certainly kick your ass on console).

how do you know that?
back on topic:
Maybe make 2 modes on camo - one that makes you completely invisible and works 5 seconds (just for passing mercs quickly), and one that lasts 10-15 seconds that works like the CT one (camnet, security cameras).
Another idea is to allow the spies to exchange eq between themselves - not only the kind that both have, but everything. That would give the spies a little advantage.
Or there could be proxy mines given to spies, but they wouldn't explode, they would release cam-gas instead, and they would have to be planed just as the merc ones.
Just one more idea:
If the merc is in combat for more than, say 10 seconds, he goes into adrenaline (fury, rage, whatever) mode, and he would see better in the dark,  his neck hitboxes would go like 50% smaller, and after a jump he would go unconscious after 5-10 seconds (lol adrenaline rulez). This would stop the spies from going aggro, and even if the spies did go aggro, they would have to go in like swat or something.

[psyichic]

No Kokafan. Most of those are probably the worst ideas I have yet seen here. Spies already have cams, adding mines would just be a pointless and questionably over powered. Swapping equipment isn't actually that bad of an idea. But rage mode is the worst idea I have seen yet.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

I know, was just throwing things here to stop Papa and Gawain from starting a flame war.

[Cyntrox]

It'd technically be very hard to detect if the merc is "in combat." What would you measure? Shots fired? Then the merc would just fire shots at random in order to enter adrenaline mode...

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

You could measure the time when the spy is visible by the merc (not in shadow and moving).

[Gawain]

all very bad ideas.
-gas mines: work like sticky cams, but without any timing skill
-rage mode: aggro is crucial for gameplay, especially when there are only few objectives left (1/3 remaining obj. usually)
-camo needs a little buff (allowing normal crouching speed against mt for example), way more gentle activation sound and maybe a little bit more invisibility, but no second mode

[Farley4Fan]

You have said MANY things that have degraded console players, don't be a fucking idiot.

Why wouldn't you want a next level CT?  Something that is better than CT or PT would be something I would absolutely love to see.  I do not see why wouldn't want something that is better than CT or PT.

How exactly would you expect me to get used to the controls as much as you guys have when you have been playing with those controls for years?  I would love to see you get used to console controls and kick my ass.  It just won't happen. 

I haven't played SC for over a month now because of Halo 3.  A lot of people could beat me right now.  But when I get back into the SC style, there aren't many console players who could beat me.  I have never seen Invisible play so I won't say anything about that.  Stop being such a little dick.

[Farley4Fan]

Sorry for the double post but, I got some more looks for the sticky cams.

Yes, no, maybe so?



This one has less spikes but they are larger ones.

[Westfall]

and now I'm double posting ;)

http://projectstealth.splintercellnetwork.com/index.php/topic,484.0.html

[mentalmars]

Hello guys im new.
I have been playing PT, CT & DA

I think it's great that you guys are trying to make a Versus mode.
I wanted to help out on ideas but i see a big discussion going here.
A big battle on who knows better.

What are we trying to create here:
A "Working" versus mode or a New versus mode?

If you want CT to work right why not make yourown patch
It CT is your game and you only care about gameplay and not the fancy graphics
it would save you a lot of time building a game.

Or are you guys building the Next Level of the Versus mode.
The things you where dreaming of when ubi first said that they where making DA
and before we knew what it would bring.
If yes where do the improvements lay?

better graphics? you are allready using the unreal3 engine so got that one fixed.
Gameplay? you are talking about wanting a good gameplay.
But dont you think that there needs to be a new feature a new twist into the gameplay.
Yes, how do you want to create that.

by adding or changing ellements
this can be a way of interaction
but also gadgets or new moves are included into that proces

what where your reactions when you first heard about CT
everyone freaked out by the new co-op moves
Also the new gadgets was something we where exiting about.

all i see in the first few pages of this thread are ppl willing to help.
yes some of the ideas are bad
also some ideas bring in a new light
this light is what we are looking for right.

i also posted some ideas on the ubi forum
Yes some of them got burned to the ground.
But it gave inspiration to others together er worked out some of the downsides of the gadgets.

I did read some ideas a few pages back that where intresting
It would need some work, but hey it could work.

So why do you just say "DOESNT WORK" or "BAD IDEA"
Then no one will post a idea anymore.
Tell pll why it wont work or why you think it wont work.
maby chage the idea a bit, look up the downsite of the idea and try to fix it.

Sorry for the long post.
I really enjoyed playing the versus mode.
Really like it that you guys are trying to recreate it.
But before i want to help i need to know what are we shooting for?
Becase i want to bring it to the next level not just patch a so called broken game i loved to play

[Gawain]

go back to the ubi forums

[mentalmars]

go back to the ubi forums

oke its just you being a ass
you cant awnser a simple question
why all those negative feedback?
and can you see beyond your own vision?

[Gawain]

without bugs and a better gadget balance/some new gadgets the gaming experience will be on a new level.