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Started by Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet, December 09, 2007, 12:40:14 AM

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SITHDUKE

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Spekkio

Quote from: Test-Subject on December 17, 2007, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: Westfall-US on December 17, 2007, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: SITHDUKE on December 17, 2007, 07:02:07 PM
The merc is like 2x the weight of the skinny spy. Why would he be able to pull him down?

dead weight is always quite strong for some reason. Especially if the spy had his arms around his neck.

arms are like jello when there is not more signal from the drain...  spy would go strait to the ground wont bring the merc down unless he is completly unbalance...
Err, ever hear of rigor mortis?

Every time a muscle relaxes, another must contract. Contraction requires a signal from the brain, which cannot be produced after death. Ergo, dead bodies are actually quite stiff.

"Ragdoll physics" look cool, but they are 100% unrealistic.

Test-Subject

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Quote from: Spekkio on December 18, 2007, 02:40:35 AM
Quote from: Test-Subject on December 17, 2007, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: Westfall-US on December 17, 2007, 08:07:11 PM
Quote from: SITHDUKE on December 17, 2007, 07:02:07 PM
The merc is like 2x the weight of the skinny spy. Why would he be able to pull him down?

dead weight is always quite strong for some reason. Especially if the spy had his arms around his neck.

arms are like jello when there is not more signal from the drain...  spy would go strait to the ground wont bring the merc down unless he is completly unbalance...
Err, ever hear of rigor mortis?

Every time a muscle relaxes, another must contract. Contraction requires a signal from the brain, which cannot be produced after death. Ergo, dead bodies are actually quite stiff.

"Ragdoll physics" look cool, but they are 100% unrealistic.

Rigor mortis is when the muscles become stiff as they don't have any more energie to keep them "relax" this processus take about 3 hours and last about 72hr... what you are thinking of is the headless chicken that keeps running for a few sec this is a nerve-adrenaling reflex this is totaly random nerve signals and not as strong as most ppl think... Yes de chicken is running but you need to take the size in de equation... chicken is small and doesn't have as much nerve as human and most of then are going to their feet. On the other side we have a face, finger and we are 10* taller. chicken runs because all the nerve reaction is mostly in his feet for us... eye movement... face contractions... finger movement...

+ it's mostly happens when you cut the spinal cord

Spekkio

What you're referring to is cadaver spasms, and usually happen before rigor mortis. People won't run around, but they can twitch and the like.

You are right that the body has enough Ca+2 in the body to allow muscle movement for a short period after death, but "like jello" isn't really accurate.

Gawain

just out of curiosity: did you learn stuff like this in biology, are you a doctor or did you google/wiki it? ^^


Gawain

 ;D
the only detective story i watched several episodes of is columbo. maybe i should give it a try...

B1nArY_001

#97
Test is right, Rigor Mortis doesn't set in for some hours. The spasms however only occur during Rigor Mortis due to chemical reactions within the body. Post Rigor Mortis (I forget the actual term) the chemicals have expended themselves and the "twitching" no longer occurs as decomposition begins. Yay for Human Bio.

CSI is 80% Bullshit and that's a fact. I dated a girl for 6 years who went to school to be a CSI and had several friends who did it. That show is ridonkulous.

neth

Quote from: B1nArY_001 on December 18, 2007, 05:27:36 PM

CSI is 80% Bullshit and that's a fact.

wtf man, you dont like Horatio Green ?

Spekkio

Quote from: Gawain on December 18, 2007, 12:37:16 PM
just out of curiosity: did you learn stuff like this in biology, are you a doctor or did you google/wiki it? ^^
My bachelor's degree is in biology.

Westfall

Quote from: Spekkio on December 21, 2007, 12:54:51 AM
Quote from: Gawain on December 18, 2007, 12:37:16 PM
just out of curiosity: did you learn stuff like this in biology, are you a doctor or did you google/wiki it? ^^
My bachelor's degree is in biology.

OH SNAP

B1nArY_001

Quote from: Spekkio on December 21, 2007, 12:54:51 AM
Quote from: Gawain on December 18, 2007, 12:37:16 PM
just out of curiosity: did you learn stuff like this in biology, are you a doctor or did you google/wiki it? ^^
My bachelor's degree is in biology.

Human Bio? Micro?

I took Micro for about a year and Human for another 2, human bio was by far my favorite. Dissecting a cadaver was bad ass.

Wandering_Youth

I like to be able to grab and hold onto the Merc because a grabbed Merc means that one part of the map is not guarded. That will give me partner time to hack that specific area although this might be situation depending on the map, but it is still useful. As for taunting a grabbed Merc, a Merc who's had his neck snapped can still hear the spy voice chatting as he falls to the ground. IMO, being grabbed is already a big enough taunt. I mean the Merc is at your mercy and your plaything once you grab them.

As for Mercs being on stairs, maybe some alternative action can be implemented. Maybe if the spy is on top of the stairs and the Merc is below then you can give him a good kick in the back/front to make him fall on his ass. The Merc obviously weighs a lot with their gear so it might stun or knock out the Merc when he falls down the stairs. Now if the Merc is above the spy and the spy is the bottom maybe he can do some sort of powerful frontal kick at the Merc's foot and trip him

Westfall

Or give him a tap in the testes. Bet you he would fall right down those stairs. I like the idea of kicking him down. I don't think it should knock him out though. He should be able to get back up without the spy being able to jump him. Otherwise, just a slap back is a workable idea.

frvge

Ooo! Merc's falling down stairs in rag-doll! Then standing up again :)
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