do you know those situations when one players writes "afk - phone" or sumthin similar and it breaks the game? i think there's an easy way to get rid of that by just adding a button for the host that opens a poll for all the players to freeze the game; once all the players press a ready button the game continues.
Quote from: Rambo on April 23, 2008, 10:04:49 PM
do you know those situations when one players writes "afk - phone" or sumthin similar and it breaks the game? i think there's an easy way to get rid of that by just adding a button for the host that opens a poll for all the players to freeze the game; once all the players press a ready button the game continues.
ok do you know how many people would be pissed off because of that , its like john wayne , being frozen and coming out of a coma and ya know how its like to take cold shower well multiply it times 50
then thats how bad people will be pissed off waiting to begin again.
I think hence the poll option agent... Neat idea but for some of the reasons Agent said, I don't think its really needed.
It would annoy me as hell, remember how annoying it already is to get everyone to ready up to start a match? Imagine people will then have to ready up again in the middle of the game... *shivers*
Quote from: Tidenburg on April 23, 2008, 10:27:36 PM
I think hence the poll option agent... Neat idea but for some of the reasons Agent said, I don't think its really needed.
I agree, it would just be annoying lol.
if you think it's annoying, you don't have to vote to freeze the game. but i counted more than 10 times during the last week when this would have helped playing with friends.
it's a nice idea, but i don't think it would come in handy that often.
Good idea for any other roundbased game.
For this game i do no think its a good thing, since there is not rounds only two sides each map. A break in the middle of the 12ish min a side takes to complete will only put you off.
If people cant stay the full 12 mins before lobby and all agree its better to just go lobby and restart the game. (if its in the end and one side will loose alot on it, then hell put the phont or whatever on mute)
Its 10-15 minutes, the phone can wait or you can let your partner down..
In a different kind of game, it just wouldn't work well for SvM. It's not like it's THAT hard to hide your own body, just go to the spawn and tell your buddy that you gotta go for a minute. If he can't hold off the 2 spies or if he can't survive 2 mercs, well then too bad. It's just one match that got screwed. Maybe you should be able to stay committed for 10 or so minutes before you actually ready up, because that means you are ready.
Look, the game already started. I didn't ask anyone to go afk and its unfair to the others that you have to waste their time of trying to have a good time by bouncing and "pausing" for a minute while you go take a leak. Stay at the computer for 10-12 damn minutes. Not that crazy. There are times when you can go AFK because you know your mate can take care of himself. If thats the case, don't say anything and go do what you have to do. If the spy is going to sit there, its gets boring as shit, but why should I pause my game because you want to go somewhere. Please....
Regardless, its just a game.
with one merc being afk it's usually game over. i can't see any of the problems you see because it works with a poll, so if you don't feel like waiting and prefer to have this round fucked up, press "no" and that's it.
How about ... you play while on the phone ...
Solves everything.
and if you can hold in your pee, go during the death timer LOL
i don't wanna list names, but i know some good players who regularily get called on the phone by their gf or called to help some shit by their mums. in those situations i'd rather freeze the game for 2min instead of destroying the whole round (yes, being afk for more then some seconds usually does that).
I agree with the OP. And if you think pausing a game is annoying, then why not limit timeouts to 1 or 2 per player/team?
it'd be annoying. Some smartarse host would just keep pressing the freeze button, so all other players get spammed with freeze polls, just for the lulz.
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 24, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
it'd be annoying. Some smartarse host would just keep pressing the freeze button, so all other players get spammed with freeze polls, just for the lulz.
Well, either give the polls a timer or just don't play on games with douches as hosts.
Quote from: Rambo on April 24, 2008, 11:33:21 AM
with one merc being afk it's usually game over. i can't see any of the problems you see because it works with a poll, so if you don't feel like waiting and prefer to have this round fucked up, press "no" and that's it.
Yeah, that's why this would be annoying as shit. It would be annoying if you really did have to go take a piss as well. You bring up the poll for a pause in the game and everyone rejects it. No one will accept it. If you are dumb enough to ready up with a full bladder or with a call waiting, then you and your teammate gets to suffer. Big deal.
ONLY will this work if there is 1 timeout per team and they are each 20-30 seconds long and they are initiated with a majority vote. Might give some time for the other team to talk about their strategy while that guy goes and answers the phone. If it's done any other way it would be annoying.
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 24, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
it'd be annoying. Some smartarse host would just keep pressing the freeze button, so all other players get spammed with freeze polls, just for the lulz.
just don't allow spamming it, it's not that hard to add a delay.
i won't respond to papa's bs, because he obviously doesn't understand what a poll does.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 24, 2008, 05:59:23 PM
ONLY will this work if there is 1 timeout per team and they are each 20-30 seconds long and they are initiated with a majority vote. Might give some time for the other team to talk about their strategy while that guy goes and answers the phone. If it's done any other way it would be annoying.
You'd never be able to do a pause. And sometimes people really have a good reason to go AFK. Things happen, and I'm always willing to wait as long as the pauser provides me with a reason.
One timeout per team really is enough, and there shouldn't be time limits to make sure you waste 30 seconds of everyone's lives and ruin the game even after that.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 24, 2008, 07:09:51 PM
One timeout per team really is enough, and there shouldn't be time limits to make sure you waste 30 seconds of everyone's lives and ruin the game even after that.
qfe
Quote from: Rambo on April 24, 2008, 06:50:57 PM
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 24, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
it'd be annoying. Some smartarse host would just keep pressing the freeze button, so all other players get spammed with freeze polls, just for the lulz.
just don't allow spamming it, it's not that hard to add a delay.
i won't respond to papa's bs, because he obviously doesn't understand what a poll does.
My BS?! You'd let someone take an unlimited time limit pause in the middle of a SvM game! That's bs, ridiculous, and I don't care wtf you say.
What about AoE or WC3 style, everyone gets x amount of pauses (1 maybe 2 per for our case?) per game. The one thing they did wrong however, is letting anyone un-pause it. The person who paused the game should be the person to un-pause it.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 24, 2008, 07:19:18 PM
My BS?! You'd let someone take an unlimited time limit pause in the middle of a SvM game! That's bs, ridiculous, and I don't care wtf you say.
you shouldn't do this with strangers, but with players you know and trust. if they don't return after some minutes, just leave if you don't want to wait. it's not that any1 forces you to vote "yes" or to stay...
To sort this out, I think some kind of feature like that could be useful in some cases.
I'd say: a callvote function, but will only get through if all other players vote yes (which should happen when it's a very good battle). If someone votes no, you just have to live with it and hide somewhere in your spawn.
Would be a piece of cake since we are probably going to put in a callvote system anyway (to kick, mute, ban, restart level, whatever).
EDIT: Ofcourse, only host will have kicking/banning power, it's just an example.
Even with a call vote to kick, will a host still be able to kick? Also, I just though of this, would it be possible to add an option for an extra slot or too for referees? If yes, they should be able to have the camera follow players or free look.
Quote from: Xris on April 24, 2008, 07:52:33 PM
Even with a call vote to kick, will a host still be able to kick? Also, I just though of this, would it be possible to add an option for an extra slot or too for referees? If yes, they should be able to have the camera follow players or free look.
Spectator slots ftw! HOWEVER people could have arguments like little kiddies saying "I DONT WANNA SPECTATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTE".
Thats why I said an option for it. Can be turned on/off by host.
I really don't want some shit popping up in the middle of my game asking me to pause. Imagine how many people are going to spam this feature. Some of you aren't thinking logically at all.
Quote from: Westfall-US on April 24, 2008, 09:18:07 PM
I really don't want some shit popping up in the middle of my game asking me to pause. Imagine how many people are going to spam this feature. Some of you aren't thinking logically at all.
That has been countered already... Besides, you don't have to have a huge pop-up in the middle of the screen saying "OMG LYK TTLY CAN I HAS PAUSE?!?!?111 lolololol"
Quote from: Westfall-US on April 24, 2008, 09:18:07 PM
I really don't want some shit popping up in the middle of my game asking me to pause. Imagine how many people are going to spam this feature. Some of you aren't thinking logically at all.
*FR33M4N backs westfall.
Besides, even if there is a delay, it will & can still get spammed. Its think its a crap idea. People should sort thier shit out before they play. If the phone rings, fuck it someone else can answer it. If you need to piss, finish the game smelling strongly of urine. (or just go to the toilet in lobby).
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 24, 2008, 10:05:20 PM
Quote from: Westfall-US on April 24, 2008, 09:18:07 PM
I really don't want some shit popping up in the middle of my game asking me to pause. Imagine how many people are going to spam this feature. Some of you aren't thinking logically at all.
*FR33M4N backs westfall.
Besides, even if there is a delay, it will & can still get spammed. Its think its a crap idea. People should sort thier shit out before they play. If the phone rings, fuck it someone else can answer it. If you need to piss, finish the game smelling strongly of urine. (or just go to the toilet in lobby).
...Or just hide in spawn, all problems solved. YOu can always ask for a redo because your mate was AFK... people aren't the baddest...
Why should anyone bother restarting a round if pausing it is going to too annoying ??? Unbelieveable. I really don't know what you guys are talking about. Maybe I just see things a bit differently, but pausing a game once or twice for some reason isn't spam. And there's no need for democracy since I foresee two on two happening 90% of times someone casts a vote.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 24, 2008, 10:53:40 PM
Why should anyone bother restarting a round if pausing it is going to too annoying ??? Unbelieveable. I really don't know what you guys are talking about. Maybe I just see things a bit differently, but pausing a game once or twice for some reason isn't spam. And there's no need for democracy since I foresee two on two happening 90% of times someone casts a vote.
People will begin to spam this addition. Its not a matter of when, but how many fuckin times it will happen. These threads lately are becoming absurd. No reason to pause a fuckin game that takes 10 minutes to play out. If you want to go AFK, then you LOSE FOR WASTING MY PARTNER'S, YOUR PARTNER'S, AND MY TIME. Jesus. If you want that shit go play fuckin Mario Bros. I can actually understand why the devs might get angry at some of these threads with how absurd the suggestions are. AND THEN HALF of you people like these shit ideas. This doesn't even make the game user-friendly....maybe we should name it
Project Stealth: For Bitches.
Quote from: Westfall-US on April 24, 2008, 11:12:55 PMPeople will begin to spam this addition.
Oh, read the fucking thread!
Come on, it's not like anyone would need such a thing. It's a fucking video game, WOOOOW you could lose a round because your partner was afk, TEH DRAMA! Get over it, that won't be put it for sure.
Quote from: BurningDeath on April 24, 2008, 11:20:20 PM
Come on, it's not like anyone would need such a thing. It's a fucking video game, WOOOOW you could lose a round because your partner was afk, TEH DRAMA! Get over it, that won't be put it for sure.
Uhu, that's how I think about it. I just throw in neutral comments to give idea's on eventual possibilities. </negotiator mode>
Quote from: Cyntrox on April 24, 2008, 11:17:34 PM
Quote from: Westfall-US on April 24, 2008, 11:12:55 PMPeople will begin to spam this addition.
Oh, read the fucking thread!
Read the thread through already. There was only the idea of it being able to happen once or twice mid game. How convenient for the person using it. So sorry that you hosted a server and then need a timeout to go tinkle mid game. Complete fuckin nonsense. This is still a stupid idea, even as much as you tell me to read the thread. I read it and comprehend the stupidity behind it, can you comprehend it Cyntrox?
Quote from: BurningDeath on April 24, 2008, 11:20:20 PM
Come on, it's not like anyone would need such a thing. It's a fucking video game, WOOOOW you could lose a round because your partner was afk, TEH DRAMA! Get over it, that won't be put it for sure.
I already said that it was just a game earlier. BURNINGDEATH...THIS IS REAL LIFE...AND U R TEH PRO B/C U MAKE $$ TO PLAY VID GAMES...SO PRRROOOOO
so starcraft and many other competitive games are for bitches and are not games for fun, and every1 is spamming this ingame? yeah, right...
a pause function and a replay function are some very basic and needed functions for a competitive game. believe it or not, but some people like me enjoy playing this game seriously and don't want a nice round destroyed by some fucking telephone call. it's really not that hard to prevent spamming it and to make the message/voting gentle.
Presses tab to open console and types "votecall"
*Usage: votecall <type> <reason>
Types "votecall pause telephone
*Are you sure you wanna call this vote? Type yes or no
Yes
*I don't believe you, really?
Yes
*Let me get some consultant, does this look real? Are you sure you ain't spamming? According to my log you already called a vote 3 times this round...
Yes
*Hm not sure...
I CAN HAZ THE PAUSE NOW!!11?!?11!
*If you answer this question correctly: Who will be America's next president?
Hillary Clinton
*No pause for you mister!
LOLZ nice one lennard
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 01:40:58 PM
so starcraft and many other competitive games are for bitches and are not games for fun, and every1 is spamming this ingame? yeah, right...
Haha, nice one comparing Starcraft and Project Stealth!
Quote from: LennardF1989 on April 25, 2008, 01:50:04 PM
Presses tab to open console and types "votecall"
*Usage: votecall <type> <reason>
Types "votecall pause telephone
*Are you sure you wanna call this vote? Type yes or no
Yes
*I don't believe you, really?
Yes
*Let me get some consultant, does this look real? Are you sure you ain't spamming? According to my log you already called a vote 3 times this round...
Yes
*Hm not sure...
I CAN HAZ THE PAUSE NOW!!11?!?11!
*If you answer this question correctly: Who will be America's next president?
Hillary Clinton
*No pause for you mister!
Hahaha, lennard = legend.
Quote from: BurningDeath on April 25, 2008, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 01:40:58 PM
so starcraft and many other competitive games are for bitches and are not games for fun, and every1 is spamming this ingame? yeah, right...
Haha, nice one comparing Starcraft and Project Stealth!
Supreme Commander will do just as fine.
This is just a game, winning & loosing shouldnt be taken as seriously as it is ATM. People should play for fun, not ftw.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 25, 2008, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: BurningDeath on April 25, 2008, 02:10:58 PM
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 01:40:58 PM
so starcraft and many other competitive games are for bitches and are not games for fun, and every1 is spamming this ingame? yeah, right...
Haha, nice one comparing Starcraft and Project Stealth!
Supreme Commander will do just as fine.
Hah, such a coincidence, I'm playing that game right now!
And I can add Warcraft 3 to the list of games that has a perfectly fine pause system.
how can you 'loose' a game?
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 25, 2008, 03:38:59 PM
This is just a game, winning & loosing shouldnt be taken as seriously as it is ATM. People should play for fun, not ftw.
thats the thing tho freeman , in the beggining it will be fun cause everyone is new , but give it couple years and then it willl be back to competition um but then again if people keep making new maps then the cycle continues =) .
competitive gaming can be fun, too. for me, it's way more fun to be in a game with teamplay and everyone trying to play well than to be in some uncoordinated fooling around bs.
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 04:46:04 PM
competitive gaming can be fun, too. for me, it's way more fun to be in a game with teamplay and everyone trying to play well than to be in some uncoordinated fooling around bs.
i tottally agree with you there. But thats not all the game should be about :P.
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 25, 2008, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 04:46:04 PM
competitive gaming can be fun, too. for me, it's way more fun to be in a game with teamplay and everyone trying to play well than to be in some uncoordinated fooling around bs.
i tottally agree with you there. But thats not all the game should be about :P, winning i mean. People should still be able to have fun if there loosing, if there having competitive games, or if there getting owned.
Lawlz. Didn't someone just make fun of someone for saying "Loose" or "Loosing"? ;D
Quote from: LennardF1989 on April 25, 2008, 01:50:04 PM
Presses tab to open console and types "votecall"
*Usage: votecall <type> <reason>
Types "votecall pause telephone
*Are you sure you wanna call this vote? Type yes or no
Yes
*I don't believe you, really?
Yes
*Let me get some consultant, does this look real? Are you sure you ain't spamming? According to my log you already called a vote 3 times this round...
Yes
*Hm not sure...
I CAN HAZ THE PAUSE NOW!!11?!?11!
*If you answer this question correctly: Who will be America's next president?
Hillary Clinton
*No pause for you mister!
Awesome. McCain ftw. Let's not turn this into a political thread though... It's a double side blade Rambo. On one hand, it would be annoying for someone to be able to have an unlimited time out. On the other hand, it would be annoying because nobody would ever accept it unless you knew the person well. Either way, it won't work.
yes it would work. how dumb are u guys not to understand that this won't create any problems? if you don't want to make a break because it's no gg anyways or you don't trust the other person to come back soon, just don't vote "yes"...
Wow, you've explained that 39 times now. Doesn't matter. There's no point to it because nobody will vote yes anyways, as I've said before in my previous post. If you know the people and they would vote yes, it probably doesn't matter if you win or lose against them does it? It's your fault for readying up when you clearly aren't ready. If something comes up, like your grandma dies, then CT automatically becomes unimportant, so big deal. If you have to take a call, then you get to be idle for however long it takes you to hang up. If you have to piss, why don't you go get a portable urinal and plop it on your seat before you ready up. Or you just take the piss before you ready up.
I can't personally believe that an idea would come up to help people that have to piss while in game. It's unbelievable. :D
just because you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that other people like me, kurbutti etc can't.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 25, 2008, 06:11:47 PM
Wow, you've explained that 39 times now. Doesn't matter. There's no point to it because nobody will vote yes anyways, as I've said before in my previous post. If you know the people and they would vote yes, it probably doesn't matter if you win or lose against them does it? It's your fault for readying up when you clearly aren't ready. If something comes up, like your grandma dies, then CT automatically becomes unimportant, so big deal. If you have to take a call, then you get to be idle for however long it takes you to hang up. If you have to piss, why don't you go get a portable urinal and plop it on your seat before you ready up. Or you just take the piss before you ready up.
I can't personally believe that an idea would come up to help people that have to piss while in game. It's unbelievable. :D
One of the main goal when you make a game is to clearly not create something that could break the game flow = PAUSE
If the pause isn't part of the in-game gameplays... it should go to hell. Plus, freezing the game because you need to do something is totally selfish and undisciplined. Lack of respect toward your engagement to ready up... Yes, an urgent moment can happen, but I'm sure you will live with it.
PS isn't Baldur's Gate lol or Fallout 3.
But I respect the fact the many of you could find it a good idea and find it useful.
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 06:16:42 PM
just because you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that other people like me, kurbutti etc can't.
After all this is only a game. Do people really care that much about someone going AFK mid game, that they'd initiate a pause vote mid game, and annoy all the other players. It would only work if players werent forced to answer. This would stop it being so annoying, and could be ignored if spammed. Maybe like a small popup similar to that of xfire's when you recieve a message ingame. I still dont like the idea though. :-\
Quote from: Hyrage on April 25, 2008, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 25, 2008, 06:11:47 PM
Wow, you've explained that 39 times now. Doesn't matter. There's no point to it because nobody will vote yes anyways, as I've said before in my previous post. If you know the people and they would vote yes, it probably doesn't matter if you win or lose against them does it? It's your fault for readying up when you clearly aren't ready. If something comes up, like your grandma dies, then CT automatically becomes unimportant, so big deal. If you have to take a call, then you get to be idle for however long it takes you to hang up. If you have to piss, why don't you go get a portable urinal and plop it on your seat before you ready up. Or you just take the piss before you ready up.
I can't personally believe that an idea would come up to help people that have to piss while in game. It's unbelievable. :D
One of the main goal when you make a game is to clearly not create something that could break the game flow = PAUSE
If the pause isn't part of the in-game gameplays... it should go to hell. Plus, freezing the game because you need to do something is totally selfish and undisciplined. Lack of respect toward your engagement to ready up... Yes, an urgent moment can happen, but I'm sure you will live with it.
You've nailed it.
i'd rather wait than to have one player being afk, so what?? just make it a little popup, and if every1 presses yes the game freezes.
No. That would be stupid.
Deal with having them afk. No online game should have a pause option.
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 06:16:42 PM
just because you can't think of a use for it doesn't mean that other people like me, kurbutti etc can't.
Well that's how you go about other ideas anyways, Gawain. I wish you would have used that kind of logic in other threads. Most people here are against it because the annoyance, the stupidity, and the fact it totally destroys flow in a game like SvM where it needs flow, and not a potty break in the middle of the match. What is this? Kindergarten? Come on now... The uses you find for it only favor the dumb people and people that care wayyy too much about winning/losing ONE game, why favor those guys? Those are the guys most of us hate. Don't you hate it when some guy goes back to lobby mid game and says: "I got wrong equipment", or "I have to take a shit" This is the same deal, same exact deal. No thanks. Ruins flow.
Rethink this.
QuoteDeal with having them afk. No online game should have a pause option.
You're as right as you've ever been Ion.
the only real way to deal with one player being afk for more than some seconds is returning to lobby and restarting the whole game, which i'd call a stronger break in the gameflow than just freezing the game.
I agree with its a game, plus its only 10min, let the machine get the phone, if u have to pee hold it. I've only ever paused WC3 once to pee and that was cause i played 3 1v1 games (each over an hour long in a row) and it was the tie breaker. I said brb i have to pee, and was gone for maybe 30 sec.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 25, 2008, 06:37:38 PMthe annoyance
I'd be more annoyed at having a whole game ruined
Quotethe stupidity
Please elaborate.
Quotedestroys flow
Then just vote no.
QuoteDon't you hate it when some guy goes back to lobby mid game and says: "I got wrong equipment", or "I have to take a shit" This is the same deal, same exact deal.
No, this is to prevent exactly that. Err, except for the wrong equipment part.
Quote from: Cyntrox on April 25, 2008, 07:06:57 PM
Quotedestroys flow
Then just vote no.
Why would I have to vote YES to pause my game if I already vote READY to play it?
Quote from: Cyntrox on April 25, 2008, 07:06:57 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 25, 2008, 06:37:38 PMthe annoyance
I'd be more annoyed at having a whole game ruined
Really? Wow. I thought if some guy paused the game for EVERYONE and took an indefinite leave it would be more annoying than having some guy be AFK for a few seconds to take a piss.
Quotethe stupidity
Please elaborate.
Been elaborated. For on online game there is no such thing as taking a pause, that's why Xbox LIVE is called Xbox LIVE. It's an online LIVE game, no breaks. Once you ready up you say you are committed to those 12 minutes of gametime. If you can't say you are committed then don't ready up. Take a piss before gametime to avoid this.
Quotedestroys flow
Then just vote no.
Ok, then what the fuck is the point to this feature? There isn't if nobody will vote yes.
QuoteDon't you hate it when some guy goes back to lobby mid game and says: "I got wrong equipment", or "I have to take a shit" This is the same deal, same exact deal.
No, this is to prevent exactly that. Err, except for the wrong equipment part.
No, it IS the same deal. Just in a different format. It may not restart the game but you don't know when that guy is coming back, if he ever does. Why give it to those guys who are dumb enough to ready up with a full bladder? Makes no sense.
I love the pro-freezing comebacks: "Just vote no" If everyone votes no, there is no point to this. Why would I anyone on the opposing team vote yes unless everyone are good friends? And even then, if everyone is good friends with eachother, who cares who wins/loses?
Good points.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 25, 2008, 07:39:31 PM
Quote from: Cyntrox on April 25, 2008, 07:06:57 PM
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 25, 2008, 06:37:38 PMthe annoyance
I'd be more annoyed at having a whole game ruined
Really? Wow. I thought if some guy paused the game for EVERYONE and took an indefinite leave it would be more annoying than having some guy be AFK for a few seconds to take a piss.
Yes, just like it'd be more annoying if someone goes AFK during the last minute of the game. In that case, I'd rather wait one minute.
Quotethe stupidity
Please elaborate.
Been elaborated. For on online game there is no such thing as taking a pause, that's why Xbox LIVE is called Xbox LIVE. It's an online LIVE game, no breaks. Once you ready up you say you are committed to those 12 minutes of gametime. If you can't say you are committed then don't ready up. Take a piss before gametime to avoid this.
There's plenty of games with a pause feature. Xbox live has nothing to do with PS. Unexpected things happen.
Quotedestroys flow
Then just vote no.
Ok, then what the fuck is the point to this feature? There isn't if nobody will vote yes.
I never said that nobody would vote yes - we can't know. I only said that if YOU don't want to pause, YOU can vote no.
QuoteDon't you hate it when some guy goes back to lobby mid game and says: "I got wrong equipment", or "I have to take a shit" This is the same deal, same exact deal.
No, this is to prevent exactly that. Err, except for the wrong equipment part.
No, it IS the same deal. Just in a different format. It may not restart the game but you don't know when that guy is coming back, if he ever does. Why give it to those guys who are dumb enough to ready up with a full bladder? Makes no sense.
It's not the same, because you can resume the game.
I love the pro-freezing comebacks: "Just vote no" If everyone votes no, there is no point to this. Why would I anyone on the opposing team vote yes unless everyone are good friends? And even then, if everyone is good friends with eachother, who cares who wins/loses?
Everyone won't vote no just because you do it. And while I don't want to argue about what relationship YOU have to YOUR friends, even if someone doesn't care about wins/losses, that doesn't mean they would want to have a round ruined.
To sum up: If you don't like it, vote no, then those who want to vote yes will vote yes. You are using extreme examples and theorycraft to prove your point, but you don't see it from the other side of the fence.
I have an awesome idea just for you guys :o:
Set Unlimited time
Say to all: "I'm coming back, my mother is stuck on the 3rd floor and the house is burning".
If everybodies agree to wait, they will wait.
Quote from: Hyrage on April 25, 2008, 08:39:20 PM
I have an awesome idea just for you guys :o:
Set Unlimited time
Say to all: "I'm coming back, my mother is stuck on the 3rd floor and the house is burning".
If everybodies agree to wait, they will wait.
Hahaha Hyrage wins again.
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 25, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
Quote from: Hyrage on April 25, 2008, 08:39:20 PM
I have an awesome idea just for you guys :o:
Set Unlimited time
Say to all: "I'm coming back, my mother is stuck on the 3rd floor and the house is burning".
If everybodies agree to wait, they will wait.
Hahaha Hyrage wins again.
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:-[ a bit of humour can't be that bad ^^
If I don't want to pause and I vote no, then it will never fucking happen. 1 person votes no and the game doesn't pause. Honestly, how many times do you think will everyone agree to it? The only times where I can see this ever happening is on a friendly game where everyone knows eachother, as I've said before, and who gives a shit who wins those games?!
As usual, your responses were: "just say no" If I just say no, as well as all the other nay sayers, this will never ever happen. That would make this completely useless and not worth the effort to put in.
It has a lot to do with Xbox live, or any online gaming system for that matter. It's LIVE, it's happening, you can't just pause it. The only times where anyone should be able to pause a game is on single player. This just completely ruins flow (yeah, just say no right? Wrong. If that's the case this feature is useless)
My solution, if everyone wants this sooo bad (which they don't), make it so each team has a 15 second timeout - with a majority vote of course (at least 3/4). This would give them a quick oppurtunity to take a piss/talk about strategy w/ teammate/answer the phone or door/save their fat mom from the burning house lmao/whatever the hell they didn't make sure they had taken care of before the game started. It's really simple, if you have something to take care of in the next 12 minutes of gametime, DON'T READY UP.
Otherwise, hide your fucking body in your spawn point. If it's near the end of the game and you have to do something, well it's near the end of the game. It can wait 1 minute.
Well I must say "I agree", but the it can't be bad to have this option availaible, but the time the Dev Team could spend on this feature could be spend on something else that is way more important lol.
If this feature is implemented, cool... people like Rambo who doesn't care to waste my time will be happy. For sure I would say no lol... but if your mother is dying I guess I would say yes, is she oky? :-\
Its pointless, everyone will say no. Lets just forget about it. So far the only people for this are rambo and kurbutti afaik.
every player with some brain should be for it. you are right that it's not all about loosing or winning (well it kinda is if you play competitively), but you have to understand that the hole round is broken once somebody goes afk for a little while. you can't argue about the fact that this function won't hurt anyone not wanting to use it, and you can't argue about the usefullness whenever a good game gets interrupted by some unexpected event.
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 10:58:00 PM
every player with some brain should be for it. you are right that it's not all about loosing or winning (well it kinda is if you play competitively), but you have to understand that the hole round is broken once somebody goes afk for a little while. you can't argue about the fact that this function won't hurt anyone not wanting to use it, and you can't argue about the usefullness whenever a good game gets interrupted by some unexpected event.
Your post is valuable if we can affirm that PAUSING the game for all the players only because one of the player think he has the right to when he already Engaged himself by "readying up" makes sense. If it makes sense, than we should think aobut having this Feature and have the Dev Team working on it.
Yes, having the option to vote for pause can be a good idea, but it isn't if you already engage yourself to complete the game before it starts.
Would you see your favorite Hockey or Football player stopping his match because he got a headaches or need to piss? The answer is probably no, he has no right to... do your stuff before starting your match and do not even think to penalize everyone else. This makes sense <<<
As I said before, you probably already have the opporunity to use the "Talk to all" fonctionality to ask if you can all pause the game. If there is a time delay. I hope you weren't thinking to pass more than one or two minutes off your computer, because if you were thinking about that... than you are seriously wasting our time for your own good.
The "Ready up" option and the "talk to all" are already there to prevent this problematic situation.
Papa: So your only argument is "it will never happen that everyone will say yes"?
Well, gee, I suppose I should start worshiping you now, considering you're omniscient and all.
Actually, since you've proved so many times that you have no idea what sarcasm is, I'll put it in easier words: You can not know. There, did you understand that?
Hyrage: I see where you're coming from, but sometimes unexpected things happen. We can't foresee everything.
hyrage, your point is based on the assumption that people are perfect and make total commitments when going "ready" by making sure that nothing unexpected in the world can interrupt them. this would be the ideal case, but it simply doesn't work this way. i can see your concern that with this feature more people who aren't really committed to the 12min press "ready", but i wouldn't vote for the break playing whith smurfers or people that are known for taking long breaks regularily anyways.
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 11:45:58 PM
hyrage, your point is based on the assumption that people are perfect and make total commitments when going "ready" by making sure that nothing unexpected in the world can interrupt them. this would be the ideal case, but it simply doesn't work this way. i can see your concern that with this feature more people who aren't really committed to the 12min press "ready", but i wouldn't vote for the break playing whith smurfers or people that are known for taking long breaks regularily anyways.
I'm a way more concerned about the time the Dev Team is going to pass on this instead of something else lolll. If we could have this feature, well I'm not going to vote YES until someone is dying, simple because I care about "wasted time". I hate selfishness, sorry to say that, but I have to admit it.
As someone said, I agree that you engage youself by pressing "ready up". For sure, you are right... it can happen to anyone one day or another that he has to go for one minute or two... but you have to learn to live with these kind of consequences and... it's just a game. It shouldn't even be tolerated during a Clan Match.
But this feature could be usefull if by exemple 6pm arrived and everyone must go to eat. On this I assure you I agree with you...the feature become truly useful, but you could jsut finish the game instead of stopping it lol.
Quote from: Hyrage on April 25, 2008, 11:52:43 PM
Quote from: Rambo on April 25, 2008, 11:45:58 PM
hyrage, your point is based on the assumption that people are perfect and make total commitments when going "ready" by making sure that nothing unexpected in the world can interrupt them. this would be the ideal case, but it simply doesn't work this way. i can see your concern that with this feature more people who aren't really committed to the 12min press "ready", but i wouldn't vote for the break playing whith smurfers or people that are known for taking long breaks regularily anyways.
As someone said, I agree that you engage youself by pressing "ready up". For sure, you are right... it can happen to anyone one day or another that he has to go for one minute or two... but you have to learn to live with these kind of consequences and... it's just a game. It should even be tolerated during a Clan Match.
Fixed, typo I suppose.
Actually, I'm quite sure he meant "shouldn't..."
Care to comment on how much effort it would take to implement something like this, Lennard?
Quote from: Cyntrox on April 25, 2008, 11:56:36 PM
Actually, I'm quite sure he meant "shouldn't..."
Care to comment on how much effort it would take to implement something like this, Lennard?
I meant shouldn't lol :-[ doesn't made sense ??? maybe just didn't expressed myself correctly?
Quote from: Hyrage on April 25, 2008, 11:52:43 PM
I'm a way more concerned about the time the Dev Team is going to pass on this instead of something else lolll. If we could have this feature, well I'm not going to vote YES until someone is dying, simple because I care about "wasted time". I hate selfishness, sorry to say that, but I have to admit it.
i think it's pretty easy to implement.
for me, playing with only half of the opponents or without my mate is wasted time, too.
I guess that this is why you can go back to the lobby ^^.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 12:01:15 AM
Quote from: Hyrage on April 25, 2008, 11:52:43 PM
I'm a way more concerned about the time the Dev Team is going to pass on this instead of something else lolll. If we could have this feature, well I'm not going to vote YES until someone is dying, simple because I care about "wasted time". I hate selfishness, sorry to say that, but I have to admit it.
i think it's pretty easy to implement.
for me, playing with only half of the opponents or without my mate is wasted time, too.
Games can easily be arranged over xfire. I dont see the need for this gamestop thing. And it can disrupt your flow if you like. Sometimes as spy, if im playing well i get into a sortof groove :P.
Quote from: Hyrage on April 26, 2008, 12:06:10 AM
I guess that this is why you can go back to the lobby ^^.
which wouldn't save me any waiting time but destroy the whole round.
Exactly, so don't you want to keep playing?
it's pretty much pointless to play with one player missing, but you probably don't understand this as a player who favors dm...
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 12:50:48 AM
it's pretty much pointless to play with one player missing, but you probably don't understand this as a player who favors dm...
Shutup & stop being an arsehole.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 12:50:48 AM
it's pretty much pointless to play with one player missing, but you probably don't understand this as a player who favors dm...
Well I guess you are totally right and I even suggest you to read this work before saying anything that could embarrassed you more than what you could already do.
Click Here (http://www.gamespot.com/gamespot/guides/q3a_gg/2.html) - no, it isn't about CT
Deathmatch and Story Mode are two totally different gametypes using the same mechanics in a complete different way. If you can't accept the fact that both Gametypes are great because YOU prefer one, this is your opinion. I prefer Deathmatch as you know, but I'll not trashtalk you because you do not see how deep a deathmatch is even in a Splinter Cell game.
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Quote from: Cyntrox on April 25, 2008, 11:38:43 PM
Papa: So your only argument is "it will never happen that everyone will say yes"?
Well, gee, I suppose I should start worshiping you now, considering you're omniscient and all.
Actually, since you've proved so many times that you have no idea what sarcasm is, I'll put it in easier words: You can not know. There, did you understand that?
Hyrage: I see where you're coming from, but sometimes unexpected things happen. We can't foresee everything.
Lmao... You know as well as I do that that's not my only argument, you just refused to acknowledge the others. And besides, that's a pretty good argument anyways and renders your only one completely useless.
If you want to worship someone who thinks he is omniscient, you best go with Rambo, I don't have time for any toe-kissers.
It's pretty easy to tell if people will vote yes or no, even right now, just take 1 quick peek at the thread Cyntrox. You'll see most people won't. And in any game I play in there will be no such thing as a pause because I will always vote no, as will a lot of others.
If something that is important unexpectedly comes up, then why the fuck are you playing CT? FORGET ABOUT IT! If it's that important, drop the friggin keyboard and take care of it. It's game for crying out loud. Let's be serious now Cyntrox.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 12:50:48 AM
it's pretty much pointless to play with one player missing, but you probably don't understand this as a player who favors dm...
Pointless eh? Good practice, much more fun than waiting with your freaking body frozen, etc... Not to mention that it doesn't mean the round is ruined if someone had to take 20 second bathroom break. What's pointless is Chaos Theory if something important comes up. Or what's even more pointless is wasting everyone's time by taking a shit with 10 minutes left, not only that, but the person could be constipated - taking up 5-10 minutes at least. :D What if he forgets about the game that he made everyone pause? He/She pauses the game and takes care of business but gets so wrapped up in his/her business that he/she forgets about everyone leaving them all in a frozen state. There are so many bad things that could happen with this. It's stupid.
You know guys, you can always replay the round. If you care about 1 round getting fucked up enough to implement some crazy feature because some random guy out there realized he left his cake in the oven for too long, then I honestly don't know what to tell ya. Too bad, the guy should have had a timer on his oven.
I've played multiplayer games that do have a pause option, so I can tell you that it's actually very rarely when someone interrupts the game. Most of the times it won't last very long anyway. Look, I know you guys don't believe it, but the majority of the players who are online are well aware of their bladder and dinner/lunch times. They're there to play. And with a good chance they're just as much against interrupting as you are. However, it seems to me that everything you can think of is the worst case scenario where you for some reason have ended up playing against complete idiots who pause the game for fun and/or some other retarded reasons that should've been left at the door. Hell, I won't even play against people like that.
Another thing no.one is realizing is that casting a vote equals to a phrase "Would you like us to lose the game?" Voting isn't effective enough in 4 player game. Frankly, I have no idea why you guys even reasonably consider it as you're lack of faith for the playerbase is unparalleled.
If it happens very rarely, what's the point? Not worth the effort. If they are well aware of their bladder they should know if it will overflow in the next 12 minutes. Therefore, they shouldn't ready up. It's a game, lose or win, no biggie. You'll get em next round when you have nothing to worry about for 12 minutes. I think of things in worst case scenario because if everyone only thought in best case scenarios, like all you pro-freezers do, then problems would never come to the table and would have to be fixed in patches. You have to think in BOTH worst and best case scenarios, because BOTH are possible. Even with best case scenario I don't think this is all that important, at all.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 26, 2008, 06:26:09 AM
I've played multiplayer games that do have a pause option, so I can tell you that it's actually very rarely when someone interrupts the game. Most of the times it won't last very long anyway. Look, I know you guys don't believe it, but the majority of the players who are online are well aware of their bladder and dinner/lunch times. They're there to play. And with a good chance they're just as much against interrupting as you are. However, it seems to me that everything you can think of is the worst case scenario where you for some reason have ended up playing against complete idiots who pause the game for fun and/or some other retarded reasons that should've been left at the door. Hell, I won't even play against people like that.
Another thing no.one is realizing is that casting a vote equals to a phrase "Would you like us to lose the game?" Voting isn't effective enough in 4 player game. Frankly, I have no idea why you guys even reasonably consider it as you're lack of faith for the playerbase is unparalleled.
Action games? Shooters?
Certainly not on X-Box Live...
RPG games maybe?
May a get a few names please because except Baldur's Gate and other games in this style I do not not a lot of game using a pause during a Multiplayer Session.
It doesn't matter. The point is that pause isn't on a lot of games because the devs know that it's a useless feature unless it's a coop game. Or an RPG. Or a MMORPG. Because the players have to suffer waiting for that guy to take care of business that he should have taken care of before he said he was "ready". Ready means you are ready. If you aren't ready, then don't ready up. It's really that simple.
papa, all your points are totally invalid because their coherency totally fails. you probably suck in higher maths, don't you?
more advanced suggestion, harder to implement, but should take care of your invalid points: let the players set a backup-point, so that they can fool around till everyone's back at the keyboard and simply resume to where the interruption happened.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:19:01 AM
papa, all your points are totally invalid because their coherency totally fails. you probably suck in higher maths, don't you?
more advanced suggestion, harder to implement, but should take care of your invalid points: let the players set a backup-point, so that they can fool around till everyone's back at the keyboard and simply resume to where the interruption happened.
This is a player problem, not a game problem. We do not need this freeze feature. Use the talk button or your mic and just say you must go to the bathroom or something. It will do the exact same thing as voting. If they do not care about you they will continue the game, if they care... everyone will wait.
We do not need a feature for that it would be a waste of time.
waiting is pointless, as having less time totally screws the balance. it's also not more exciting than freezing the game.
If you care that much about pausing a game you care to much;p
if you care that much about not pausing a game even if both teams agree you care too much.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 11:45:45 AM
if you care that much about not pausing a game even if both teams agree you care too much.
The only reason i dont want this implemented is it will become annoying, no1 will pause (so wasted dev. time), and its not really needed. These games mean nothing anyway, just play for fun, so what does it matter if the game is paused or not?
Anyway if a feature like this is implemented, I'll mod my version to not see the annoying vote appear, it's quite messing up the game immersion.
I would rather vote to kick someone...
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:19:01 AM
papa, all your points are totally invalid because their coherency totally fails. you probably suck in higher maths, don't you?
more advanced suggestion, harder to implement, but should take care of your invalid points: let the players set a backup-point, so that they can fool around till everyone's back at the keyboard and simply resume to where the interruption happened.
But Papa is right Rambo. You're adding new points as you go along such as backup points , so it seems as if Papa's points are invalid, when they're not. Papa is right, you should be ready before the game starts, I you think you've got dinner in 5 minutes then dont play anymore games. If you think you've got dinner before rev, re-organise your rev for after dinner, and i'm sure most people here can hold there bladder for 5 minutes, can they not? I can't think of any scenarios where this'd be usefizzle.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:19:01 AM
papa, all your points are totally invalid because their coherency totally fails. you probably suck in higher maths, don't you?
more advanced suggestion, harder to implement, but should take care of your invalid points: let the players set a backup-point, so that they can fool around till everyone's back at the keyboard and simply resume to where the interruption happened.
Wow, that is honestly the most retarded thing I've heard from you, ever. I've aced all my math classes with flying colors. How you came to an alternate conclusion boggles me. And I thought that the freezing idea couldn't get any worse than it was. Seriously, let's all throw the players in a giant bucket until one guy pinches off a shit, wtf? You gotta be kidding me.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 26, 2008, 08:40:41 PM
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:19:01 AM
papa, all your points are totally invalid because their coherency totally fails. you probably suck in higher maths, don't you?
more advanced suggestion, harder to implement, but should take care of your invalid points: let the players set a backup-point, so that they can fool around till everyone's back at the keyboard and simply resume to where the interruption happened.
Wow, that is honestly the most retarded thing I've heard from you, ever. I've aced all my math classes with flying colors. How you came to an alternate conclusion boggles me. And I thought that the freezing idea couldn't get any worse than it was. Seriously, let's all throw the players in a giant bucket until one guy pinches off a shit, wtf? You gotta be kidding me.
Lol. Im perfectly fine with a Votekick. But not a votepause.
voting for a kick is total bullshit: 3 noobs join your "good only" server, and you can't kick them, yeeha...
Vote to kick + Admin Kick option. Bestest.
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:56:04 PM
voting for a kick is total bullshit: 3 noobs join your "good only" server, and you can't kick them, yeeha...
I agree there. Sort of off topic but what about if a host leaves? Would it be possible to give the server to another player in the room so they don't all have to be kicked out? It's one thing I really like about Halo's online, the host doesn't just leave and ruin the entire match but instead gives it to someone else - usually a friend or random.
I don't see why this feature wouldn't be welcome.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 27, 2008, 02:03:49 AM
Quote from: Rambo on April 26, 2008, 10:56:04 PM
voting for a kick is total bullshit: 3 noobs join your "good only" server, and you can't kick them, yeeha...
I agree there. Sort of off topic but what about if a host leaves? Would it be possible to give the server to another player in the room so they don't all have to be kicked out? It's one thing I really like about Halo's online, the host doesn't just leave and ruin the entire match but instead gives it to someone else - usually a friend or random.
I don't see why this feature wouldn't be welcome.
It's still a UT3 game, and you basicly run a local server as a host. If you leave as host, you'll kill the game and all players get disconnected. As far as I know, you cant throwover host rights, since the host is actually running the server (he also opened ports for that).
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 27, 2008, 02:03:49 AM
Sort of off topic but what about if a host leaves? Would it be possible to give the server to another player in the room so they don't all have to be kicked out?
another handy idea though i think it's technically quite complicated: the host closes the session, another player automatically hosts, and the rest of the players automatically joins the new server.
Yeah it could be complicated but wouldn't it be worth it? It starts a new server with same settings and everyone gets put into it. I mean it makes the guy he chooses to take over automatically start a new server. Hard to explain somewhat.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 27, 2008, 06:11:57 PM
Yeah it could be complicated but wouldn't it be worth it? It starts a new server with same settings and everyone gets put into it. I mean it makes the guy he chooses to take over automatically start a new server. Hard to explain somewhat.
The game doesn't need added luxuries like this. Especially if they are as irrelevant as this one. It would probably cause major loading time/crash. Just make a new server. Not hard to point and click you know?
It's a luxury though, if devs have time wouldn't you like to have it rather than not?
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 27, 2008, 07:16:50 PM
It's a luxury though, if devs have time wouldn't you like to have it rather than not?
No, since too few people have their network set up to allow hosting for each individual game on their computer.
THat's true, didn't think about that. Maybe the host would only get the list of people available to host? I guess I'll drop the idea. :D
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 27, 2008, 07:16:50 PM
It's a luxury though, if devs have time wouldn't you like to have it rather than not?
Nope. I don't mind opening a new room or joining a new room. Really not the end of the world.
yeah it's a luxury, and changing opponents after some games isn't a bad thing, too.
yet the pause-option is no luxury, it's a totally new function. if this game shall appeal to any competitive gamers, we certainly need stuff like this (=>replay system, ingame ladder,...).
I'd like a replay system even though it led to a lot of bugs in DA, I have more faith in our guys than in Ubisoft. But a freezing system? If competitive players are really that competitive they can hold their bladder. It's not that hard to hold it for 5-10 minutes. And if they are REALLY competitive, they can just let a phonecall go or not answer the door. And if they are REALLY REALLY competitive I'm sure they'd rather win the game than have their grandma die in a fire.
Seriously, if we want to grab competitive players, having their game freeze isn't a good way to go about it.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 27, 2008, 09:45:30 PM
I'd like a replay system even though it led to a lot of bugs in DA, I have more faith in our guys than in Ubisoft. But a freezing system? If competitive players are really that competitive they can hold their bladder. It's not that hard to hold it for 5-10 minutes. And if they are REALLY competitive, they can just let a phonecall go or not answer the door. And if they are REALLY REALLY competitive I'm sure they'd rather win the game than have their grandma die in a fire.
Seriously, if we want to grab competitive players, having their game freeze isn't a good way to go about it.
Anyway, real competitive players will nto anser the phone if it rings or go to the bathroom to piss... when they are ready to play they just play and play and play all over again.
Nine of ten cases when game gets paused while playing 2 vs. 2 ranked games in Supreme Commander is due to techical problems. Each second has a great effect in the outcome, so in order make sure none goes by it has a pause. SvM is also an intensive game concept, and most important functions in that game are being counted by seconds as well.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 27, 2008, 10:00:47 PM
Nine of ten cases when game gets paused while playing 2 vs. 2 ranked games in Supreme Commander is due to techical problems. Each second has a great effect in the outcome, so in order make sure none goes by it has a pause. SvM is also an intensive game concept, and most important functions in that game are being counted by seconds as well.
And I'm not sure that the spy will go piss at the bathroom during the mission...
Kurbutti, someone isn't going to pause it because of network probs. As all you have said it's because they have to piss.
Why do you think technical problems appear in the connection? You've also made good job making no sense to me with your last post.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 27, 2008, 11:34:47 PM
Why do you think technical problems appear in the connection? You've also made good job making no sense to me with your last post.
THIS WILL NOT WORK! LETS JUST LEAVE IT! PEOPLE CLAIMING THEY WILL STOP IF SOMEONE STARTS A PAUSE VOTE, ARE LYING, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL GET PISSED OFF THAT IT HAPPENS EVERYGAME AND JUST VOTE NO!
CAPSLOCK FTW!
they don't have to vote no, just vote yes if they want to freeze it (or create a backup point). and yes there are people like me and kurbutti that would rather want to freeze a good game then have it broken.
Oh, you want to not have a round be broken? Here's a clue: DON'T FUCKING READY UP. There is a reason you have to ready up to start the game. When you ready up you commit to the 12 mins, that's it. If you can't commit don't ready up. And besides, for the 20th time, it's a game, big deal if you lose because some guy was AFK for a minute. Even then a round isn't completely destroyed, especially if the guy goes quickly.
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 27, 2008, 11:34:47 PM
Why do you think technical problems appear in the connection? You've also made good job making no sense to me with your last post.
Technical problems whether they are connection problems, hardware problems, whatever, who cares? It's a game. I'd rather be able to play than have some guy throw me in a giant box so he can take his blueberry muffins out of the god damned oven. Most people here feel the same way.
Drop this idea, lock the thread, it's going nowhere, same garbage over and over again. Saying my posts aren't valid just because you refuse to believe them.
Quote from: Rambo on April 28, 2008, 12:02:44 AM
they don't have to vote no, just vote yes if they want to freeze it (or create a backup point). and yes there are people like me and kurbutti that would rather want to freeze a good game then have it broken.
Its also people like you two who need to realize its just a game.
Quote from: Rambo on April 28, 2008, 12:02:44 AM
they don't have to vote no, just vote yes if they want to freeze it (or create a backup point). and yes there are people like me and kurbutti that would rather want to freeze a good game then have it broken.
It's just a game... :D
Quote from: FR33M4N on April 27, 2008, 11:50:28 PM
Quote from: Kurbutti on April 27, 2008, 11:34:47 PM
Why do you think technical problems appear in the connection? You've also made good job making no sense to me with your last post.
THIS WILL NOT WORK! LETS JUST LEAVE IT! PEOPLE CLAIMING THEY WILL STOP IF SOMEONE STARTS A PAUSE VOTE, ARE LYING, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL GET PISSED OFF THAT IT HAPPENS EVERYGAME AND JUST VOTE NO!
CAPSLOCK FTW!
So... How many online games with a pause function have you played?
wiating this answer for so long :D
Quote from: Westfall on April 28, 2008, 03:32:20 AM
Its also people like you two who need to realize its just a game.
yes it is a game, and i enjoy the beautify of it just like a good chess round. and this beauty get's destroyed when some1 goes afk...
@papa: your point is fucking invalid because i don't say you should ready up when you're not ready, i say you should be able to freeze a good game when something unexpected happens. in the case u didn't notice: it's just a game, and therefore people don't have to make 100% sure that no1 calls them etc.
Quote from: Rambo on April 28, 2008, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: Westfall on April 28, 2008, 03:32:20 AM
Its also people like you two who need to realize its just a game.
yes it is a game, and i enjoy the beautify of it just like a good chess round. and this beauty get's destroyed when some1 goes afk...
@papa: your point is fucking invalid because i don't say you should ready up when you're not ready, i say you should be able to freeze a good game when something unexpected happens. in the case u didn't notice: it's just a game, and therefore people don't have to make 100% sure that no1 calls them etc.
Lennard, how much time would you need to sexually satisfy Rambo? I mean... the freeze time :D.
With the tongue please ;D
Quote from: Rambo on April 28, 2008, 01:26:50 PM
Quote from: Westfall on April 28, 2008, 03:32:20 AM
Its also people like you two who need to realize its just a game.
yes it is a game, and i enjoy the beautify of it just like a good chess round. and this beauty get's destroyed when some1 goes afk...
@papa: your point is fucking invalid because i don't say you should ready up when you're not ready, i say you should be able to freeze a good game when something unexpected happens. in the case u didn't notice: it's just a game, and therefore people don't have to make 100% sure that no1 calls them etc.
Oh no it's not invalid. If something unexpected happens and it's important, then the game becomes automatically unimportant, simply because of the fact that it's a game. In the case that YOU didn't notice, it's just a game, so drop this fucking idea because it simply shows that you care about the results of every single round - and that's pathetic to me.
i don't care about the result, i care about the beauty of a good game that only happens when 4 players of about the same level play competitively.
I concur, good games, even if you lose, are better then easy games vs noobs when you always win
Quote from: Rambo on April 29, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
i don't care about the result, i care about the beauty of a good game that only happens when 4 players of about the same level play competitively.
Games are artwork, but are you really going to call a good match "beauty"? I call it fun and exciting, but whatever. You still have those same 4 players for the next round. You can see the "beauty" next round when some dumbass isn't AFK. Besides, if someone is AFK for 20 secs or so to take a piss it doesn't automatically "ZFOMG HOLY SH1t" destroy the round. There's not a whole lot that spies can do in 20 secs especially considering they don't even know that the 2nd merc is AFK. And there's nothing that mercs can do to spies who hide in the spawn for 20 secs. That's why I'd rather have the 1 20 sec timeout per team ordeal, but I grow tired of explaining simple stuff that won't annoy players.
Quote from: Rambo on April 29, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
i don't care about the result, i care about the beauty of a good game that only happens when 4 players of about the same level play competitively.
wahaha .. no.
You can have good games against anyone, aslong as the atmosphere in the server is okay and everyone is up for some fun. Thats it.
Quote from: BurningDeath on April 29, 2008, 06:28:29 PM
Quote from: Rambo on April 29, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
i don't care about the result, i care about the beauty of a good game that only happens when 4 players of about the same level play competitively.
wahaha .. no.
You can have good games against anyone, aslong as the atmosphere in the server is okay and everyone is up for some fun. Thats it.
True, but with such a small amount of players per match, it's hard to keep a good atmosphere if one team is way too good for the other.
How about this (i know it's bs but don't flame :P ):
When a player goes afk (menu command), his controls get turned off and the game saves each players position and timer. Now, until the afk-guy comes back, the playing-players play a temporary deathmatch mode OR they continue playing normally as if he was afk, BUT if he comes back before the match finishes, the game reverts to it's saved state.
i suggested a backup system like 20 posts ago, but it's probably to hard to do.
Quote from: Liqu1D_133 on April 29, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
How about this (i know it's bs but don't flame :P ):
When a player goes afk (menu command), his controls get turned off and the game saves each players position and timer. Now, until the afk-guy comes back, the playing-players play a temporary deathmatch mode OR they continue playing normally as if he was afk, BUT if he comes back before the match finishes, the game reverts to it's saved state.
I actually like this idea, the game would popup something like "Player X is gone afk, would you like to play a DM or continue the game?" Whenever the player gets back (depending on time left and if chosen for continue plaY), it would ask if the game should revert back to it's old state before the player went AFK.
Ofcourse, this option will be able to turn on/off by the host.
EDIT: Sorry Rambo, I never participate in this long lasting threads, 'll not even take the time to read each page, so I just read the last page and continue on what's posted there. That explains how I missed that idea, since I would probably said it would be possible ;)
I liked it b4 when rambo stated it, and I like it even more now with the new ideas from liquid and lennard.
Beside that, there should be an option in the ESC menu to toggle AFK-mode, else it would be pretty annoying if someone accidently pressed ESC. And yes, people could spam this, but I don't want to hear that as an argument anymore, you could spam everything, eather this, chat, voice chat, whatever, so it's no excuse not getting it in.
OMG!1! NO CHAt or VOicE ChaT, PPL CAN SPAM IT!!!!<11!!
Quote from: Rambo on April 29, 2008, 08:28:38 PM
i suggested a backup system like 20 posts ago, but it's probably to hard to do.
Well, maybe not.
UT3 offers a Demo Playback system that records everything up. I guess it would be possible to go back in time like in the theater mdoe from Halo 3, but this should be complicated to achieve properly alone (Lennard). We probably have more important stuff to work on than that for this game, but I still like the idea.
Oh, and is anyone able to record ONLINE matches with the Demo Playback Feature??? If yes jsut tell me because I never been able to do that, I can only record Offline gameplays what is completely dumb unless you are a PC Pro Gamer engaged in a few competitions.
the ability to record online games is something even more important.
The UT3 playback has nothing todo with it, our code is completey written from scratch and doesn't/won't use UT3 features. Besides, saving time, positions and objective states in a couple of variables isn't really that hard...
Agreed, saving states in variables is very easy. Thats why web apps use sessions/cookies :P
Quote from: Hyrage on April 29, 2008, 08:43:12 PM
Oh, and is anyone able to record ONLINE matches with the Demo Playback Feature??? If yes jsut tell me because I never been able to do that, I can only record Offline gameplays what is completely dumb unless you are a PC Pro Gamer engaged in a few competitions.
1st. It has to be set on the Server to allow recording.
2nd. It would be kind-of unfair to spec other players in a game like CT\PS (SAM generally). Even if it means specing them AFTER the match is played, it still is unfair.
it would make people learn more quickly, which is a good thing afterall. there may be teams that don't want to give a way their strats, but at least tournaments replays should be recorded and made public.
Quote from: Rambo on April 29, 2008, 10:25:33 PM
it would make people learn more quickly, which is a good thing afterall. there may be teams that don't want to give a way their strats, but at least tournaments replays should be recorded and made public.
nice idea, it shud auto record like on halo, and upload to some sort of server, it gets auto removed if you dont save it aswell, it should record without hud aswell. Dunno if u guys have the facility for that.
Quote from: Rambo on April 29, 2008, 10:25:33 PM
it would make people learn more quickly, which is a good thing afterall. there may be teams that don't want to give a way their strats, but at least tournaments replays should be recorded and made public.
There is nothing unfair here, you learn everything and it force you to be smarter.
Hmmm...
Merc A: *Keyboard gets unplugged or he sets his status to AFK*
Merc B: *Chooses continue game when player Merc A resumes*
Spy A: *Chooses DM*
Spy B: *Chooses DM*
Now, Merc A is gone, Merc B is frozen, Spies A + B have no one to play against. Eh, there's so many situations like this that could ruin the entire room from this idea.
I'm sick of discussing such a stupid suggestion like this. And yes, it is stupid. No one will ever vote yes unless it's friendly server where everybody knows eachothter. If it is one of those servers, who the hell cares who wins/loses? If it's a good game then just make sure no one leaves the match and you can have that same competition NEXT ROUND, or the next round, or the next one, or EVEN THE NEXT ONE... And if it's a good game I'm sure no one will leave it to take a quick piss. This is ridiculous, and I hope doesn't even get the slightest smidgen of interest from the devs.
papa, i'm sick of you bs, too. i'm particularily sick of a person spamming 20 pages about moving dead bodies or some other toal bullshit topic and yet flaming about every reasonable post from my side (maybe just because i bashed your noob-nonsense before??). a pause-option and a replay system are very basic functions any competitive game needs. instead of mocking about totally unrealistic situations that can never come up because it's a fricking vote, you should rather take the time to learn this game or at least to learn how other really competitive games work.
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 12:32:36 AM
papa, i'm sick of you bs, too. i'm particularily sick of a person spamming 20 pages about moving dead bodies or some other toal bullshit topic and yet flaming about every reasonable post from my side (maybe just because i bashed your noob-nonsense before??). a pause-option and a replay system are very basic functions any competitive game needs. instead of mocking about totally unrealistic situations that can never come up because it's a fricking vote, you should rather take the time to learn this game or at least to learn how other really competitive games work.
You have NOT posted one good reason why this should be in the game. Not one. Don't say: "Well go back and read the thread" because I have, I've read every one of your garbage posts. This will in no way enhance gameplay, or save it for that matter, because no one will ever vote yes. And if all 4 ever do it will only be in friendly servers, and who cares who wins in a friendly server? I've explained this to you countless times yet you come back with the same "Oh well don't vote yes", or "it's competitive", or "No, you post nonsense." It's like you are programmed to do this, wtf? I hope this turns into a flamewar so it gets locked because it's a fucking retarded idea to put into any game, with few exceptions.
If you aren't ready, don't ready up. If something important comes up mid-game, well too bad-video games become unimportant when something important in real life comes up. If it's a really competitive game and you have to take a piss, hold it. Anybody who has control over their bodies can hold their piss for 10 minutes. There is absolutely no reason why we should be able to pause the game, ever. It's online, it's live, it's happening whether you like it or not. You appreciate the beauty of it Gawain? Well, you can appreciate the beauty of the next round if someone going AFK for 20 secs is too bad and ruins the match completely - which it doesn't. All 4 people aren't going to up and quit, so you can play with them again. If the game really was THAT competitive, to the point you'd ignore your dying mother to beat the other team - uhh, why the fuck would you take a piss then?
None of your points put even a spark of life into this idea, and I suggest stopping this now before it turns into another 20 page bullshit post-athon.
Totally agree with papa, even though I didn't read the whole thing. This idea is just dumb.
This thread is still going? What's that Lassie? Its getting worse?
Cockfan's idea is even worse than the original. Papa is right (yes, I give it to him). There have been no sound points the entire thread as to why this idea is....well....good. Theres nothing concrete. You can't judge another players reactions in game. I can already guarantee that if this is implemented...and anyone suddenly needs to pause to go tinkle mid game...d/c and blacklist. Obviously not worth the time. As it spreads more and more you will see that the community diminishes drastically because how many times do you have people come in your server going "GO GO GO GO 60 60 60 60" You bet they're going to want to pause. People don't have the patience and/or time to deal with such bullshit as a mid round pause.
ROUNDS CAN ALWAYS RESTART. Several rounds restart right away because of equipment problems. If its midway through, tough fuckin luck. No one said "hey, make sure you go afk midway through this game that you've CHOSEN to play in THIS server". I also don't want to go into a server where the host all of a sudden is like "YOU CHEAT IF YOU DON'T PAUSE CUZ I HAVE TO LET MY DOG OUT". Tough.....Fuckin....Luck.....
This thread needs to die....fast
Pause = Fail, but IF something, I'd like to see a system with the 'play till he comes back' attitude.
Play until he comes back relates to pause which you already said equals fail. Therefore, playing til some1 returns TOO equals fail.
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 30, 2008, 01:51:54 AM
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 12:32:36 AM
papa, i'm sick of you bs, too. i'm particularily sick of a person spamming 20 pages about moving dead bodies or some other toal bullshit topic and yet flaming about every reasonable post from my side (maybe just because i bashed your noob-nonsense before??). a pause-option and a replay system are very basic functions any competitive game needs. instead of mocking about totally unrealistic situations that can never come up because it's a fricking vote, you should rather take the time to learn this game or at least to learn how other really competitive games work.
You have NOT posted one good reason why this should be in the game. Not one. Don't say: "Well go back and read the thread" because I have, I've read every one of your garbage posts. This will in no way enhance gameplay, or save it for that matter, because no one will ever vote yes. And if all 4 ever do it will only be in friendly servers, and who cares who wins in a friendly server? I've explained this to you countless times yet you come back with the same "Oh well don't vote yes", or "it's competitive", or "No, you post nonsense." It's like you are programmed to do this, wtf? I hope this turns into a flamewar so it gets locked because it's a fucking retarded idea to put into any game, with few exceptions.
If you aren't ready, don't ready up. If something important comes up mid-game, well too bad-video games become unimportant when something important in real life comes up. If it's a really competitive game and you have to take a piss, hold it. Anybody who has control over their bodies can hold their piss for 10 minutes. There is absolutely no reason why we should be able to pause the game, ever. It's online, it's live, it's happening whether you like it or not. You appreciate the beauty of it Gawain? Well, you can appreciate the beauty of the next round if someone going AFK for 20 secs is too bad and ruins the match completely - which it doesn't. All 4 people aren't going to up and quit, so you can play with them again. If the game really was THAT competitive, to the point you'd ignore your dying mother to beat the other team - uhh, why the fuck would you take a piss then?
None of your points put even a spark of life into this idea, and I suggest stopping this now before it turns into another 20 page bullshit post-athon.
Well, I found one awesome reason to get a pause... Damn! Everyone on GTA 4 move, move, move!!!
Bit will PS will come out, it will be useless to have a freeze game fonction.
It's funny how history repeats itself, Agent with another jibberish filled post. :D
Quote from: Papa Skull on April 30, 2008, 07:32:57 AM
It's funny how history repeats itself, Agent with another jibberish filled post. :D
>:(
HAHAAAAHAAA!! I don't know why, but that was just too funny. Perfect smiley for the situation lmao haha
You know I'm just playin agent. ;D :D :D :D
But seriously, what did that post even mean?
Agent and Papa Skull, stop the frikkin' fight on the public forums and take it to the PM, SC Lamers or e-mail. I'm sick and tired of you two hijacking threads because of this vendetta you guys seem to have. Grow up FFS, should every thread you two participate in get locked?
Now ON-TOPIC, and don't reply to this message, back to the topic before it got hijacked. Gees. Or else, let it die in peace and let me (and other devs) see what should happen.
* You can reply to the bold part if needed.
yeah agent, nice timing roflcopter, like a drunken war-vet making a pointless remark just when you least expect it XD
but can't u guys use a messenger or private message for your personal talks?
@westfall: there ARE players that want a pause function, eg kurbutti and me, and im sure that there are more out there. you also know me good enough that you should know that i'm not the type to press "ready" when i'm not, or to try to abuse such a function, and neither is kurbutti. you can't simply deny that we have a point: it's better to freeze a good game for a minute than having to restart the whole round. yes, this would only be used with friends. but in this little community every1 knows every1 anyways (at least if they're not faking), so this should be np. the fact that a pause and replay function are in pretty much every competitive game nowadays should also make you guys reconsider your view.
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:27:05 AM
yeah agent, nice timing roflcopter, like a drunken war-vet making a pointless remark just when you least expect it XD
@westfall: there ARE players that want a pause function, eg kurbutti and me, and im sure that there are more out there. you also know me good enough that you should know that i'm not the type to press "ready" when i'm not, or to try to abuse such a function, and neither is kurbutti. you can't simply deny that we have a point: it's better to freeze a good game for a minute than having to restart the whole round. yes, this would only be used with friends. but in this little community every1 knows every1 anyways (at least if they're not faking), so this should be np. the fact that a pause and replay function are in pretty much every competitive game nowadays should also make you guys reconsider your view.
Could you give some titles of games who have this functionality?
Actually, I know some myself. The Battlefield series, server admin can pause the game.
EDIT: I'm all against a freeze function, since I just explained Rambo it's frikkin' annoying to stare to a frozen screen for as long as the guy is away. Server admins did that to me in awesome battlefield games, and I just left them because I couldn't stand the waiting anymore. I'd rather have the "save state" feature, if any at all.
mainly in rts games like starcraft, but also in fps like the bf series.
lennard is right that it got abused a lot by stupid kiddy admins, but the admin's possibilities were really awesome for organizing clanwars with so many players.
i'd also rather have the backup function than a simple freeze.
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I'd be happy with a save state function. And Battlefield is different to PS because BF has so many more players.
@Papa: Don't say we have no arguments when every single argument you've repeated over and over is based on your extremist guesses. You cannot possibly think of EVERY SINGLE situation that can happen when you play online, so don't act like you do.
Quote from: LennardF1989 on April 30, 2008, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:27:05 AM
yeah agent, nice timing roflcopter, like a drunken war-vet making a pointless remark just when you least expect it XD
@westfall: there ARE players that want a pause function, eg kurbutti and me, and im sure that there are more out there. you also know me good enough that you should know that i'm not the type to press "ready" when i'm not, or to try to abuse such a function, and neither is kurbutti. you can't simply deny that we have a point: it's better to freeze a good game for a minute than having to restart the whole round. yes, this would only be used with friends. but in this little community every1 knows every1 anyways (at least if they're not faking), so this should be np. the fact that a pause and replay function are in pretty much every competitive game nowadays should also make you guys reconsider your view.
Could you give some titles of games who have this functionality?
Actually, I know some myself. The Battlefield series, server admin can pause the game.
EDIT: I'm all against a freeze function, since I just explained Rambo it's frikkin' annoying to stare to a frozen screen for as long as the guy is away. Server admins did that to me in awesome battlefield games, and I just left them because I couldn't stand the waiting anymore. I'd rather have the "save state" feature, if any at all.
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Quote from: LennardF1989 on April 30, 2008, 08:54:57 PM
Sigh... Thanks... and what the heck: http://freeze%20function.justgotowned.com/
lol, the link is broken
No it isn't.....
yeah, very mature on-topic posts indeed...
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:27:05 AM
yeah agent, nice timing roflcopter, like a drunken war-vet making a pointless remark just when you least expect it XD
but can't u guys use a messenger or private message for your personal talks?
@westfall: there ARE players that want a pause function, eg kurbutti and me, and im sure that there are more out there. you also know me good enough that you should know that i'm not the type to press "ready" when i'm not, or to try to abuse such a function, and neither is kurbutti. you can't simply deny that we have a point: it's better to freeze a good game for a minute than having to restart the whole round. yes, this would only be used with friends. but in this little community every1 knows every1 anyways (at least if they're not faking), so this should be np. the fact that a pause and replay function are in pretty much every competitive game nowadays should also make you guys reconsider your view.
How many pause funtions have been in any SvM games? Zero. And in my opinion they did just fine without them. A replay system however it could use, especially to help newbs learn and progress. I can simply deny that you have a point, you don't. You can play with those peeps as much as you'd like and see the beauty there, you can play with them as much as you'd like and play competitively, you can play over and over again and see both of these things. One round which magically gets completely destroyed because 1 guy takes a 20 sec piss is no biggie, not to mention that a 20 sec AFK guy doesn't ruin a match either. It's his fault if he leaves when it gets to the good part with minimal time left, and if he leaves with a minute left in a close game he probably doesn't care about the result eh?
papa, you seriously fail in basic logic, so i try to sum it up for you: it doesn't matter who's fault an interruption is, and it doesn't matter how many games i can have with those fellows. it all comes down to the question wether enough people would make use of a pause function because they'd rather wait 30s instead of finishing a broken round or restart it; and this number doesn't even have to be very high because it's obviously not hard to implement and doesn't harm anyone. this is my last try to make you understand, cause if you don't get this it's absolutely pointless discussing with you about anything at all.
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
papa, you seriously fail in basic logic, so i try to sum it up for you: it doesn't matter who's fault an interruption is, and it doesn't matter how many games i can have with those fellows. it all comes down to the question wether enough people would make use of a pause function because they'd rather wait 30s instead of finishing a broken round or restart it; and this number doesn't even have to be very high because it's obviously not hard to implement and doesn't harm anyone. this is my last try to make you understand, cause if you don't get this it's absolutely pointless discussing with you about anything at all.
You fail at common sense. MULTIPLAYER GAMES DO NOT HAVE PAUSE. NO REASON!
I can only think of one MP game I have played that has had pause, and that was ESPN NFL 2k5.
OK Ive made it clear in the beginning , this idea isn't going to work , so why are you all circling around my point 50 times ?
and further note , i really don't think this thread deserves the 12 pages of
repetition that it has gotten.. and just move on to something better . . =/ like
Pretend3rs post which actually breathes new life to this forum.
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
papa, you seriously fail in basic logic, so i try to sum it up for you: it doesn't matter who's fault an interruption is, and it doesn't matter how many games i can have with those fellows. it all comes down to the question wether enough people would make use of a pause function because they'd rather wait 30s instead of finishing a broken round or restart it; and this number doesn't even have to be very high because it's obviously not hard to implement and doesn't harm anyone. this is my last try to make you understand, cause if you don't get this it's absolutely pointless discussing with you about anything at all.
Common sense? Do you know the meaning of the word(s)? Putting a pause option on a live online game is idiotic, unneeded, and is not common sense. It's online, you can't just pause it. By readying up you show that you are ready for an online live game. If something important comes up, CT becomes unimportant. "I'd rather do this" or "I want this". Why don't you think about what the community wants and not just you and the few people on your side like Kurbutti? Aj gives a great example where a pause option IS needed. A strictly 2 person game. You can't continue with the other. Coop games, 2 person versus games, RTS, NOT 4 player versus. THINK about it ffs. I grow tired of explaining to you that this idea is not worth any effort and not worth discussing any further, DROP IT!
Your word isn't the almighty final word agent, and unfortunately people need more explaining than from just one senile guy lol Just kidding of course. ;)
And just for laughs, tell me how the fuck I fail at basic logic?
I'm totally done with this thread.
There would be no solid reason to implement this function. Pausing the game for the need of one player asking a vote is dumb and selfish. Do not ready up or ready up and assume your consequences, so it also means to not waste other people time.
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Quote from: Ion.67 on May 01, 2008, 02:26:51 AM
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
papa, you seriously fail in basic logic, so i try to sum it up for you: it doesn't matter who's fault an interruption is, and it doesn't matter how many games i can have with those fellows. it all comes down to the question wether enough people would make use of a pause function because they'd rather wait 30s instead of finishing a broken round or restart it; and this number doesn't even have to be very high because it's obviously not hard to implement and doesn't harm anyone. this is my last try to make you understand, cause if you don't get this it's absolutely pointless discussing with you about anything at all.
MULTIPLAYER GAMES DO NOT HAVE PAUSE. NO REASON!
I agree. The only online games which have a pause button are 1 VS 1 sports games. Fifa, PES (might be wrong here), Madden series etc, and even that sucks. This isn't going to work, there are like 2 people including yourself which actually like the idea Rambo. Just give up already ;) if you do i'll give you a gold star and a cookie, like the one lennard couldn't afford. ;)
Quote from: Rambo on April 30, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
it all comes down to the question wether enough people would make use of a pause function because they'd rather wait 30s instead of finishing a broken round or restart it;
You don't need a freeze function for 30 seconds. If you have go afk for 30 sec., look for a safe place, say nothing and do what you have to do. That won't hurt the game too much. If it does well, who cares, it's just a game. If you have to go away for more than that, it'll get boring for the others too wait.
=> Useless function.
^Yup
Rambo, we all know that you know what you are talking about when it comes to SvM. We know you want to help the project and usually your ideas are pretty good. But this one it just, well, isn't.
Quote from: Papa Skull on May 02, 2008, 04:05:49 PM
^Yup
Rambo, we all know that you know what you are talking about when it comes to SvM. We know you want to help the project and usually your ideas are pretty good. But this one it just, well, isn't.
why don't you continue adding fuel to the fire by acting like a snob....
This thread needed to die on page one...can frvge please lock this pos.
I wasn't adding any fuel to the fire. I was saying that this idea sucks, just like you have, but in an actually nicer way. Hell, he probably has more experience than I do, I'm not ashamed of that. But this idea is bad experience or no experience. I wasn't being a snob.
im doing this for the good of the forums
LOCK LOCK LOCK LOCK
lock
spam any1?
papa: no1 has experience with a pause function in svm, and no1 probably ever will...
what the heck, as long as some form of replay function makes it into ps i'm satisfied anyways.
+1 for lock.
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Quote from: Rambo on May 03, 2008, 12:45:09 AM
spam any1?
papa: no1 has experience with a pause function in svm, and no1 probably ever will...
what the heck, as long as some form of replay function makes it into ps i'm satisfied anyways.
Replay is a diff topic, and a good idea. Make a different thread about that if you feel the need, but it's already been discussed - so I don't really suggest it. But hey, I'd love to see a replay function, a poll maybe?
+3 for lock
Just shut up and let it die. You guys all expressed your feelings about it, we know about it and see what we can do with those feelings. Now just stop replying, and a lock won't be needed.
Thank you.
Quote from: LennardF1989 on May 03, 2008, 03:33:20 PM
You guys all expressed your feelings about it, we know about it and see what we can do with those feelings.
nooooooooooooooooone understands my feelings *cry* the whole cruel world hurts me allllll day loooooong :'( :'(