Suggestions for PS

[Hyrage]

did you actually play ct vs mode for more then some hours? oO

X_x... my gaming partner was top 70 (xbox/ 360) on this game and we are Team mate because we fit well together and both of the same skills, the only idfference was that I was a better MERC, but I stopped playing CT a lot of months ago if it's not years. I also fully played Pandora Tomorrow as a crazy dude.

When you think back about it... I passed 3 complete years on this game. The first year and a hlf I was playing more than 14 hours a day, so YES I played CT a lot and understand it on another perspective than most of you could do, but this isn't making me a better person.

[Farley4Fan]

I didn't think that the mercs were overpowered in DA at all.  I think it was actually balanced lmao  :D  They found a way to balance the game but in the long run it sucked.  That's ironic.

[Hyrage]

I didn't think that the mercs were overpowered in DA at all.  I think it was actually balanced lmao  :D  They found a way to balance the game but in the long run it sucked.  That's ironic.

DA is balanced but boring as hell, CT was unbalanced... but it was fun, Pandora tomorrow was fresh, new and innovative.

I can tell you that I played more than 10 000 games of Halo 2 (minimum 5 minutes each games), but I played Pandora Tomorrow and CT together a lot more.

[Gawain]

my gaming partner was top 70 (xbox/ 360) on this game
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and understand it on another perspective than most of you could do, but this isn't making me a better person.

rofl mao. rank kid + console version + place 70 in a game with very few players + arrogant. if i remember correctly, you also prefer "deathmatch gametypes"...

[frvge]

Gawain, this is a free reminder on your ban-poll... use it wisely.

[MacBryce]

my gaming partner was top 70 (xbox/ 360) on this game
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and understand it on another perspective than most of you could do, but this isn't making me a better person.

rofl mao. rank kid + console version + place 70 in a game with very few players + arrogant. if i remember correctly, you also prefer "deathmatch gametypes"...

I hope the other 1429 posts were a bit more constructive than that one, mate.

[Farley4Fan]

 :D  I'd say most of them weren't.

my gaming partner was top 70 (xbox/ 360) on this game
(...)
and understand it on another perspective than most of you could do, but this isn't making me a better person.

rofl mao. rank kid + console version + place 70 in a game with very few players + arrogant. if i remember correctly, you also prefer "deathmatch gametypes"...

Playing rank doesn't make you a noob.  Playing console doesn't make you noob.  Your arrogance stuns me yet again Gawain.  If you care about your rank, on the other hand, that's stupid.  But I have to agree that his post was a bit arrogant.  But still, quit your BULLSHIT biased garbage opinions.  I'm sick of it. 

[Hyrage]

Guyz, he was sharing his opinion as I did, it's cool.

You are right, a player isn't better because he is getting experience points or anything else and the point was : I'm not a Rank type player like my partner is. I'm a custom game player like I always been.

So my point wasn't to tell you I'm great at CT, but to tell you that I can understand this game really well and deeply.

POINT 1
The fact that I'm a "deathmatch type" player is just giving me a different perspective of a game that can be played by completing the objectives, but if you are the MERC waiting to kill the spies while they are trying to complete their objectives... How will you react when you will realize that their specilities is KILLING MERCS.

If the MERC isn't confortable with this style it will be pretty easy and I assure you it's another kind of game, movements, tactics and timing. If he is ready for it, I hope that he have a really great partner and then... it will be challenging for both sides.

POINT 2
Playing on a console game is much noob than playing on a PC game? Well it's a subject to debate, but I can tell you and prove you that playing with a 360 controller is much more effective than playing with a mouse and keyboard. Yes, you can aim really well and it's a lot more easy with a mouse [think twice to this... isn't it more noob to play with a mouse & keyboard???... no offense to PC players  :D ], but everything that touches "buttons"... the controller is definitively taking the lead. The Game "Shadowrun" was the best test for it, the Devs made many test "Pc VS 360" and the 360 players were always winning and some of the PC players were Pros.

Even with this... you are always free to debate the subject.

Conclusion:
Yes I was playing Pandora Tomorrow and Chaos Theory on X-Box Live and not on PC. Yes, it's in the past and it's in my memory & not in my present, but this game haven't change... them maps haven't changed.

If the question was if I'm a noob or a great player, I'll anwser "I'm a great player" because if I tell you I'm a noob I'll be lying.

The fact that a player prefer killing MERCS at the place of completing the objectives isn't making him bad at him, he just prefers the other perspective.

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[Farley4Fan]

You haven't been here long enough to know about Gawain's history.  He is biased towards console players, just because they play console  :D lmao.  Console is inferior to PC in some aspects but it mostly all just boils down to preference.  PC's are obviously more powerful but most of the power is unused anyways because of the games, exception: Crysis and games of that caliber

I still prefer to use analog sticks to aim rather than mouse (currently working on that), but should that really make ME an inferior player?  It shouldn't. 

And I get what you are saying.  Kind of.  In fact, I always found it harder to kill mercs rather than take objectives.  So to call someone a noob for playing DM or for playing story like DM is pretty stupid imo.  But, story is where it's at man.  You just can't get that type of gameplay anywhere else.  You can get DM on any other game on the market.

[Hyrage]

You haven't been here long enough to know about Gawain's history.  He is biased towards console players, just because they play console  :D lmao.  Console is inferior to PC in some aspects but it mostly all just boils down to preference.  PC's are obviously more powerful but most of the power is unused anyways because of the games, exception: Crysis and games of that caliber

I still prefer to use analog sticks to aim rather than mouse (currently working on that), but should that really make ME an inferior player?  It shouldn't. 

And I get what you are saying.  Kind of.  In fact, I always found it harder to kill mercs rather than take objectives.  So to call someone a noob for playing DM or for playing story like DM is pretty stupid imo.  But, story is where it's at man.  You just can't get that type of gameplay anywhere else.  You can get DM on any other game on the market.

You are right Papa Skull,.... lol and I saw many posts here from Gawain and I'm not here to bring any troubles. I'm here to work on PS or bring any possible help. I like writing and Gawain is just giving me the option to practive my English writing X_x lolll ::) ...

What was great with Pandora Tomorrow and CT was exactly that you had the choice to... kill the MERCS or complete the objectives. If killing the MERCS is you objective, be sure they will not hide themselves into their Spawn Points waiting the end of the game because you are always in the first area at one minute to end the game, so you must complete the first objective to let them get out from there... If someone think it's less tactical or more noob, he is wrong. Same for the Slayers thinking that objective players are noob. CT isn't only about completing the objectives, but to find a way to win the game.

Plus, if you are a MERC and don't know where your weak spot is... you will be handicaped in close-combat against Spies. This is why the MERC must always protect one of his side with a wall and I'll let you find wich side it is because you aren't obligated to grab the MERC by behind...
(I guess you already knew about it anyway)

Chaos Theory (PC & X-Box) VS Gamespot:
"Controls are ultimately a bit better on the Xbox, partly because the PC version includes some irritating inconsistencies between the default key bindings for the solo and co-op modes as well as for the versus mode. Both versions include a few too many unskippable splash screens, in-game advertisements, and undesirable loading times for comfort. Multiplayer is easier to get into using the Xbox Live service than on the PC through Ubisoft's proprietary Ubi.com, which makes you jump through a few hoops before you can get into a match. Both versions retail for the same price, whereas PC versions of games like this used to cost a few dollars less."

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/splintercell3/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs%3Breviews&page=3

History:
A few years ago I was a hardcore PC player (SoF 2), but after a few months I became so efficient that I was bored by the lack of challenge simply because I couldn't progress at the stage I was. So I jumped on my Xbox and I discovered that it was near impossible to stay as good as I was on the PC... simply due to the fact that manipulating Thumbsticks requires a lot of training if your Sensitivity is HIGH. Using a mouse is totally natural and if I stop playing for 3 days... I'll warm up in 5 minutes, but on my X-Box it could take me 3 hours or days depending of the game and how long I stopped.

And you know what? I find a controller a lot more intuitive and quick to play with. Harder to aim? It just depends on how skilled you are because I know a few players who are owning PC players at aiming.

PC better than Consoles?
Seriously it will never be proved because the PC is always upgrading, what isn't a stable platform to talk about. The Framerate is often better on (500$)Consoles when you need a $2000 PC, so it can't really be compared.

[Westfall]

lol....to each his own. PC is better on the controls in the sense of the mouse. I can do a 180 faster than you can...lol. I also just like the controls being under my fingers as opposed to holding a controller. I play in whatever is the most comfortable for me.

I never played DM because I wanted something more than the "whole kills the mercs" thing. Seems way better that they are guarding objectives. This makes it worth it to act stealthy. Anyone can set up a merc for a neck break, but when they don't see it because they are working on making sure that obj. w/ 3 secs left is protected. Well, you can see why hacking objectives is just the best teamwork and the best rush of stealth. I guess just killing the merc is fine too though.

[AgentX_003]

lol....to each his own. PC is better on the controls in the sense of the mouse. I can do a 180 faster than you can...lol. I also just like the controls being under my fingers as opposed to holding a controller. I play in whatever is the most comfortable for me.

I never played DM because I wanted something more than the "whole kills the mercs" thing. Seems way better that they are guarding objectives. This makes it worth it to act stealthy. Anyone can set up a merc for a neck break, but when they don't see it because they are working on making sure that obj. w/ 3 secs left is protected. Well, you can see why hacking objectives is just the best teamwork and the best rush of stealth. I guess just killing the merc is fine too though.

to add to that theres nothing like the reward of slipping into a door way as it opens without the other merc knowing =)

[BurningDeath]

did you actually play ct vs mode for more then some hours? oO

Does that matter?

[Farley4Fan]

Sometimes it is a great strategy to target just one merc until he lose all of his lives or he is down to just one life.  If he has one life he is going to be a lot less prone to be patrolling, and that gives you more freedom to just walk around the map.  Or he will be much closer to his partner, keeping him away from guarding some key objectives.  If he loses all of his lives, taking objectives is a cakewalk against a lonely merc in a map like factory.  In conclusion, killing can be a good part of good strategy, but it shouldn't be the main soul of the SAM gameplay imo.

As I've said in the past, DM players can be great aggro story players if you convert them to story mode.  They can make a great partner if you go the stealthy route, and meanwhile he is distracting/possibly killing the mercs.

[Gawain]

killing the mercs should be even harder than playing 100% stealth. the mix of stealth and action is what makes this game so great. if you manage to kill a merc with good teamwork or because he did a major mistake in the fist place, i'm totally ok with it. but the main goal should always be the objectives. the funny thing is that there are some noobs quite decent at getting grabs/quickcams etc but they never manage to take advantage of that situation and get an objective.