Visual Gas Mask Indicator

Started by Farley4Fan, June 07, 2009, 10:04:28 PM

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Gawain

who the fuck switches weapons by scrolling in mp? xD

on a serious note: can someone tell me why we need more than 2 possible states for mask (eg on and off)?

Farley4Fan

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Because if you feel like you are in danger of being gassed, you can be one button press away from being safe by going to selected mode.  BUT THAT COMES AT A PRICE - other gadgets, AND peripheral vision.  

I like risks and sacrificial elements about CT and it should stay that way imho.  That's why I like the 3 state system.  Can someone remind me if you can use visions while you have gas mask on?  I haven't played in months and I can't remember.  Part of me tells me you can and part of me tells me you can't.  I'm 95% sure you could no matter what. :-X

Current 3 state system sacrifices and gains

Not in use mode:
sacrifice-become more vulnerable to gas
gain-other gadgets

Selected mode:
sacrifice-can't use other gadgets, lose peripheral vision
gain-quicker access to 'activated mask mode'  (one press away from safety, becomes a reflex mechanic)

Activated mask mode:
sacrifice-can't use other gadgets, lose peripheral, lose air
gain-completely safe from gas

The only thing that I think should be changed is if you can use other gadgets while in selected mode.  Frags at least, not sure about others.  Needs testing I think.

Westfall

I think having to select and turn on/off your gasmask was just fine. Making it turn on automatically is unbalanced. Also there should be something in the field of view.

Farley4Fan


Roberto1223

Quote from: Rambo on June 10, 2009, 02:56:00 AM
can someone tell me why we need more than 2 possible states for mask (eg on and off)?

because that is how it was in CT, and those are all the different situations a merc can be in. not selected, selected but not in use, and in use.

2 stages (on and off). would mean that the "selected, but not in use stage" dosent exist. the consequence would be that it would always be selected and ready for use?
meaning that the gas mask wouldnt be selectable in the inventory of gadgets. it would come included without taking up a slot.

i know, its confusing, but if u think about it for a minute youll understand what im trying to say.

Gawain

i guess you mean that cycling through your equipment should be possibile without consuming mask capacity, and i have to agree on that. but it should still be possible to put on and activate mask with one button, otherwise it comes down to unnecessary button-smashing "skill".

frvge

Hitting a button at the right time isn't that uncommon... Like... making headshots, blowing up a mine etc.
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Quote from: Rambo on June 10, 2009, 02:56:00 AM
who the fuck switches weapons by scrolling in mp? xD

on a serious note: can someone tell me why we need more than 2 possible states for mask (eg on and off)?

I do for spy and merc  ( for gasmask)


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Roberto1223

@Rambo

yes that is another way of thinking of what i was trying to say.



on another thought, dosent anybody think that gasmask should come included as a default? its not like anybody actually dosent select it. we might as well just make it default and bind a key for activating it and disactivating it. almost like the laser aiming module.

Gawain

Quote from: Roberto1223 on June 11, 2009, 09:33:18 AM
on another thought, dosent anybody think that gasmask should come included as a default? its not like anybody actually dosent select it. we might as well just make it default and bind a key for activating it and disactivating it. almost like the laser aiming module.
that's what spekkio and me suggest for a long time.

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Quote from: AgentX_003 on June 11, 2009, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Rambo on June 10, 2009, 02:56:00 AM
who the fuck switches weapons by scrolling in mp? xD

I do for spy and merc  ( for gasmask)

me too, i hate using the numbers.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Quote from: FR33M4N on June 11, 2009, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: AgentX_003 on June 11, 2009, 04:16:10 AM
Quote from: Rambo on June 10, 2009, 02:56:00 AM
who the fuck switches weapons by scrolling in mp? xD

I do for spy and merc  ( for gasmask)

me too, i hate using the numbers.
Yeah.
I tried having eqs on F1-F4, but it wasn't very cool.
I just can't play if my visions aren't on 2 and 3 -.-

VaNilla

It's the most accurate way of switching to gadgets, thus increasing time to react, that's why it's better to use mousewheel for things like zooming, speed, and even binds of choice.

Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet

Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on June 11, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
It's the most accurate way of switching to gadgets, thus increasing time to react, that's why it's better to use mousewheel for things like zooming, speed, and even binds of choice.
You mean the mousewheel's more accurate then the keyboard? It isn't so.

Gawain