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Started by VaNilla, March 03, 2010, 02:02:48 PM

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CurdyMilk

Speaking of gadgets, have the heart sensor or backpack been created yet?  They are two obvious ones that I have not seen.  Or maybe there is nothing to showcase since they are internal without actual objects to create...

tigaer

Quote from: CurdyMilk on March 13, 2010, 01:51:27 AM
Speaking of gadgets, have the heart sensor or backpack been created yet?  They are two obvious ones that I have not seen.  Or maybe there is nothing to showcase since they are internal without actual objects to create...
You never know... ;)

Cronky

Backpack would be cool to have as a visual.

Perhaps a kind of "PS 2" (But hell, this game isn't Beta yet, so why not now) Idea though, but it'd be kinda sweet to have everything actually have a visual that get's placed on the model of the respective side. Of course it doesn't have to DO anything, but if someone has a backpack... They have a backpack on. If they have a heartbeat sensor... Perhaps their weapon of choice has a little attachment on it.

That kind of thing.
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LennardF1989

Quote from: Cronky on March 13, 2010, 03:45:45 AM
Backpack would be cool to have as a visual.
I thought we already showed that thing on the mercenary model screenshots?

EDIT: Watch closely on the left hip: http://www.projectstealthgame.com/public/renders/mercmodel/mercfinishedfront.jpg

Spark Mandriller

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PM
Thene again, im sorrounded by people who like anime... (I think i dont fit in well in this forum's environment lol).

Yeah, Lennard.

Cronky

Quote from: LennardF1989 on March 13, 2010, 02:37:07 PM
Quote from: Cronky on March 13, 2010, 03:45:45 AM
Backpack would be cool to have as a visual.
I thought we already showed that thing on the mercenary model screenshots?

EDIT: Watch closely on the left hip: http://www.projectstealthgame.com/public/renders/mercmodel/mercfinishedfront.jpg

Sweet Mana from Heaven. The Merc is wearing a Fanny Pack!

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VaNilla

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Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PM
Ok well may I ask you how many hours you have in TF2? How many of the unlocks you have? why there are servers called "Idling Servers"? and why the rest of the game developers jacked Valves achievement idea after they put it into TF2?  (notice how after valve implemented it to TF2, all of a sudden every game around has em... There might have been a few game with rankings before TF2, but im pretty sure achievements where valves idea)

I have played TF2 for just over half a day in total, I honestly don't have a lot of time for gaming. So as you would expect, I haven't unlocked many rewards. Idling servers exist so that casual players of TF2 can unlock items that are usually only available to dedicate a lot of time to the game. This has nothing to do with an addiction to gaining achievements. The creation of idling servers correlates with the addition of rewards to TF2. Achievements have been around for a long time, the most famous example being Xbox Live Achievements, TF2 most definitely did not start the craze. I didn't even say anything to contest the invention of achievements in my post, so why do you use this against me?

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PMOk em, when did i ever even use the word magic or suggest this... This is the worst argument you could have used against an agnostic/atheist like me lol

You said that "Id rather be addicted to a game that is actually good." This implies that if achievements are in a game, you cannot become addicted to the quality of the game, that you can only become addicted to the achievements which are available, and that having achievements makes the game worse. The connotations of the word 'magic' by your implications, and have nothing to do with your religious beliefs (which also do not clarify or aid your argument). I suggest that you improve your metaphorical understanding.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PMI understand this would be a matter of opinion purely, but I truly LOL'ed on this claim... the game is fun like i stated before, but comon.... how could one is claim it is "one of the best shooters out there". Thene again, im sorrounded by people who like anime... (I think i dont fit in well in this forum's environment lol).

You're trying to downplay my point by saying that your surrounded by fans of anime. This implies that anime is bad, and that because of this, your argument is more valid than fans of the anime genre. The belief that anime is bad is an opinion, so despite saying that you understand matters of opinion, evidence suggests you do not. I don't even like anime, and since the argument is between me and you, not the community, your argument is obsolete. You could claim that TF2 is one of the best shooters out there based on a few things. Firstly, it has a metacritic score of 92, and a metacritic user score of 9.5 (which at the end of the day, is the most important factor). Also, the game is still played by hundreds of thousands of people years after the release date. Now, having mass appeal doesn't make the game any better, but when so many people are still playing the game after such a long period of time, this is indicative of the game's quality, and there are few games that can match such a feat.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PMWell u previously stated that achievements werent retarded because some honest  people dont fake scenarios and that that is what counts. Well idk why now ur saying PS would "[have to be the kind of game where achievements would unlock specialized equipment]", the game could very well have achievements that dont do anything but get ticked on a checklist and I wouldnt care less because then i would just ignore them, just as others will fake the scenarios, and people like u would be all like "look at my achievments i didnt fake em, give me reputation" to which i LOL at...

I most certainly do not crave reputation, and I certainly do not seek respect from achievements. Your attempts to fit me into a stereotype are poor, and you are unable to back them up with any evidence. I'm saying that unlockable achievements in Project Stealth would not be a good idea, I never suggested gadgets as a reward, I do not defend that viewpoint. You say that you 'LOL' at me, but let's be honest here, the jokes on you.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PMThat is why I summarize achievemnts as total retardation.. They create nothing but a fake ass image of a player and artificially extend the life of an online game mode.

Based upon the flaws of your summary, it is impossible to agree with your argument.

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PMIf u implement them you will increase the population of AgentX type douchebags that care so much about the game and their "reputation" that they dedicate their worthless lives at pestering other players and recording matches against them to give em a bad "reputation".

Do you honestly believe that your attempts to marginalise and demean AgentX have any relevance to the topic of achievements? I think that he's unfairly slandered, and that you have to lead a pretty "worthless life" to infatuate yourself with the process insulting him. And let me just say that your failed attempts to find common ground with me in our opinions regarding AgentX do not strengthen your argument, and most certainly don't make me respect your opinion. Now, whilst the addition of achievements is likely to increase the amount of people who care about reputation, this does not detract from the game at all, so what's your point? Also, the addition of achievements has no correlation to the increase in recorded matches. In fact, it's actually more likely that less matches be recorded, as a lot of people think that an achievement list speaks for itself. I'm not saying that I agree with that, but the fact that people believe it is true. The main thing to remember here is that many people fake achievements, but it doesn't decrease the quality of the game).

Quote from: Roberto1223 on March 12, 2010, 09:55:34 PMI can see agent all like "You fuckiin noobs got those achievments in a fake manner fuck u OMG OMG" (LOL)

You're attempting to insult AgentX by stating what is actually your own attitude towards faking achievements. Sometimes, I wonder if you actually try to make your standing worse on purpose... I suggest that you reflect on this, realise why you're wrong, and who knows, maybe you'll become a little more mature while your at it.

Spark Mandriller

Quote from: STON3COLDKILLA on March 13, 2010, 07:29:30 PM
maybe you'll become a little more mature while your at it.

oh damn man you put all that effort into trying to sound sophisticated and wise and you were so close to the finish and then you just ruined it
i'm sorry for you i really am


ps anime is terrible tbqh

pps except strike witches strike witches is totally cool

VaNilla

I put effort into sounding sophisticated and wise? I didn't really try, so thanks I guess :). Out of interest, how did I ruin it?

Cronky

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I think he means the accusation of immaturity in comparison to your own maturity in acknowledging and announcing such things.
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VaNilla

If that's the case, I fail to see how I've been immature :)

Cronky

It's immature in the sense that...

Say two kids are fighting over a toy and one calls the other one a "Baby" for being all fussy and not sharing. The same comment could be said about YOU, but not for the EXACT same reason.

Acknowledgment and Universally Justified Name Calling in this situation is the Immature part.

"You're Stupid"

"Your Mom"

"I'm Right, You're wrong"

"You're Immature"

In certain contexts they work just fine. In others... they just lessen the overall affect of what preceded it.

(At least by my understanding of what the problem was)
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VaNilla

In this context I'm responding to immature comments, it does not make me immature to respond to that with the same respect as has been directed towards myself ;).

Cronky

To which doesn't negate the fact that you too were being immature with that comment you made saying he was being immature.

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