Suggestion Thread

[I <3 U]

as a general rule i'd say being able to dive through the ones in the open, and the concealed ones would require shooting/chaffing.

[Farley4Fan]

It's up to the map designer where the ones that can be dove through are placed.  It depends on whether or not he/she wants a spy to freely and silently access that area.  All the mapper would have to do, theoretically, is lower or raise the level of the laser beams.

[Spark Mandriller]

May as well not bother putting in lasers if you can dive through them. All they're gonna do is possibly screw over people who are lagging/really new. No real point.

I guess if they were like the ones in Factory corridor B they could work. Y'can still dive through them, but at least it takes some effort to avoid the cameras while you do it. Better than completely pointless ones at least.

[VaNilla]

I'd also say they're pretty pointless in CT anyway, anyone with a blind bit of sense can tell whether the sound being created is from an Alarm Snare or not at the moment, EAX or without.

Have you not been paying attention to the conversation?

Yes I have, and in my honest opinion what you're saying is bullshit. With practice it is incredibly easy to tell whether the sound being created by the game is real or from a snare, and when you don't pay attention to alarm snares, they become obsolete. That is why when you say they would be "near perfect" without EAX, I couldn't disagree more.

[Spekkio]

You can claim that I'm spewing bullshit, but the fact of the matter is that I used snares a lot in CT and finished 2nd place in a tourney with them (and I think the guys who beat us used them, too). They must have some effectiveness.

[Farley4Fan]

Irrelevant, my good Spek, irrelevant.   :D

[Spekkio]

Irrelevant?

The claim is that snares are useless, and that any player can easily discern between snares and a spy. So how are examples of successful players using them in a tournament that had prizes irrelevant? I mean, sure, using them to fuck around wouldn't prove anything, but the winners of the tourney got free copies of DA and some t-shirts. People aren't going to throw away equipment slots when there's actually something at stake.

If seefoo and vantage still played (or sas-mosar and solidus on the other side of the pond), you tell me snares are useless after playing a few rounds with them.

It goes back to the fact that snares are pretty well balanced, so their only tweak is that they need to be a little quieter to shoot. It's just that in the face of OP cams, chaff, and HBS, you really don't have much room for them.

[VaNilla]

It doesn't matter to me if you got 2nd place in a tourney with snares in your equipment; from my personal experience on a much wider scale than a tourney, I have never once found use in snares, or been fooled by them.

[Farley4Fan]

Spekkio I was being sarcastic that your example wasn't relevant to the point.

[Spark Mandriller]

It doesn't matter to me if you got 2nd place in a tourney with snares in your equipment; from my personal experience on a much wider scale than a tourney, I have never once found use in snares, or been fooled by them.

Stone: the only person whose experience matters.

[VaNilla]

When it comes to my opinion regarding a gadget in Splinter Cell, I'm not going to base my opinion upon the experiences of other people, I can make my own mind up. Way to twist my pragmatics ;).

[Spark Mandriller]

I'm no good with the uzi (It's true. Not sure how, but it is. Ask Razor, I can't do anything with it.), but that doesn't mean I go around claiming it's useless. I certainly don't go claiming people are bullshitting when they say they're good with it.

You should be more like me. I'm pretty cool.

[Farley4Fan]

Yay, Rocket is pretty cool, and nay, snares are not useless.

I find them especially useful on maps like Orphanage, Missile, Station, and even Club House.

[AgentX_003]

Yay, Rocket is pretty cool, and nay, snares are not useless.

I find them especially useful on maps like Orphanage, Missile, Station, and even Club House.

lawl too bad he doesn't play on the PC loooooooooooooool. the day that happens , hell will freeze over O_o.

[Farley4Fan]

Me or Rocket, agent?

If you are talking to me, I won't respond.  If you are talking to Rocket, I won't respond.