Haha we got him!

[Spekkio]

Yeah, I would never tell Pakistan.  Especially when it became so obvious that they may have hid him themselves (even if it was a select few in the pakistani govt/military).  It could compromise the whole mission.  

Recent articles say that they have trained for this mission for months.  They built a replica to practice the raid in February iirc...

The fact that they would do this so bluntly but without Pakistan knowing tells me that this really was Osama.  The fact they would strain relations that are already so delicate tell me that this was a high value target, and not an elaborate facade to trick the American people/the world into thinking we got him.  If they wanted to fake it, they would have just said they found him in a cave in Afghanistan.  But to do it like this, with so much preparation and secrecy (secret to both Pakistan and the American people), it has to be true.

The fact is, we'll never really know if Pakistan cooperated and, if they did, to what extent. Pakistan has a vested interest in hedging the anti-American Muslim population, and their cooperation with American military forces could compromise their popularity or influence within the region. What we know is that Pakistan is publicly denouncing the US for violating its sovereign borders, and Bin Laden was 'hiding' within Pakistan's borders for a long time. But the US also knew where he was long before we carried out the operation.

There very easily could have been some under-the-table negotiations between Pakistan and the US. But the bottom line is that we got him, and I think at the end of the day both countries are glad he's gone. The political grandstanding is just that, and in the end we'll all move on with life.

[LoChang]

Well said.

[Farley4Fan]

I second that, or triple that.  Whatevs.  Well said spek.

I just watched downfall, so I'm waiting for the inevitable movie.  Maybe this was all one big ploy by the movie industry to have a topic for the next big movie.  This website says it was, so it probably was.

*That new bin laden vid shows Bin laden alive and well, enjoying a nice bowl of Cap'n Crunch, long after he "died".  gg?

[Spekkio]

PS everytime I hear the phrase "enhanced interrogation," I get the urge to torture a baby.

[Farley4Fan]

enhanced interrogation

[Spekkio]

Wedge issues... allowing American politicians to dodge accountability since 1776.

[AgentX_003]

all of you are dumb on this subject .

Enough said : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ksatFd8gkY&feature=player_embedded#at=289

[DreadStunLock]

That's not proving anything, I see it this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L-rrkyvApU

[Farley4Fan]

all of you are dumb on this subject .

Enough said : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ksatFd8gkY&feature=player_embedded#at=289

Yeah, I'm so smart on the subject, now listen to this guy ---->>>

Seriously Agent?

I watched the whole thing.  At least from the point you linked to the very end.  I guess I missed the "proof" part.

[AgentX_003]

where i linked it starts half way for some reason , you need to start it from the beggining to see everything

[DreadStunLock]

For some reason, it doens't change the fact that there is no proof of anything...More like a crappy propaganda.