System requirements...

[Bionic-Blob]

so why cant we use OGRE instead? will it also solve the problem with the system requirements?

there is no problem damnit, stop being a cheapskate and go buy a 7100 or something.

[Tidenburg]

so why cant we use OGRE instead? will it also solve the problem with the system requirements?

there is no problem damnit, stop being a cheapskate and go buy a 7100 or something.

Thank You! Took the words right outta my mouth.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

so why cant we use OGRE instead? will it also solve the problem with the system requirements?

there is no problem damnit, stop being a cheapskate and go buy a 7100 or something.

Thank You! Took the words right outta my mouth.

Mine too. :E

[Gui Brazil]

I'll take you guys don't have the money to spend on a new pc, so I'll make this only to meet the Recommended specs.  EDIT: actually is better than the recommended specs.
I've checked ONLY newegg.com

Corsair 1gb (2x512mb)ddr2 800mhz  USD67,00
eVGA GeForce 7600gt 256mb          USD99,00
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4000+ AM2         USD99,00
ASUS M2N-X Socket AM2               USD64,99
PSU Enermax 535w -                     USD79,99
             ---------------------------
Total       ------------------------>USD409,98

Oh noes what about a case/cd/dvd/flopper/HD/SoundCard/Monitor!??!?!?!?

Pick the ones from your current PC!

[Gawain]

pwned.

[Overstatement]

there is no problem damnit

Where have you been the last couple of posts? Seriously, OGRE = 2 programmers. UT3 = NO programmers. And I am quickly approching the view that scripting is as hard as C++.

The lights in that game bake to static light maps using simple raycasting techniques that have been used since the original quake.

Back in the day, programmers had to preprocess lights (lightmapping) because doing it in realtime is crazy talk. These days when programmers use lightmaps (if ever), they use it to calculate more complicated lighting models (like radiosity) and you can bet those will include lightbouncing. You may be able to set the light settings but reducing it would really make the game very ugly.

pixelcolor = (diffuse * staticlight) + (diffuse * dynamiclight) + (specularmask * specularlight) + (environmentmap * environmentmask)

Dynamic lights can't be calculated with lightmapping. And this would be a simplistic model of any lighting model but I get the point.

[Bionic-Blob]

there is no problem damnit

Where have you been the last couple of posts? Seriously, OGRE = 2 programmers. UT3 = NO programmers. And I am quickly approching the view that scripting is as hard as C++.

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wtf? i never said anything about that. i was responding to the guy's statement that the system requirements are a 'problem'

[Tal]

Time change and technology advances, deal with it.

That is such BS. The first game I couldn't run was Battlefield 2. Someone explain to be why a computer that runs Doom3, Quake4 and every game before that, can't run Battlefield 2 and BF 2142.

What's the second game I couldn't run? Get ready for this, it's vietcong2! That's right, it's a conspiracy by game developers to sell video cards that you didn't really need.

And let's not forgot the Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion. Surely, I can't play this and I couldn't :(...until Oldblivion ported the shaders over. I can understand if some developers want to use the latest and coolest shaders for their game, but give us an option to lower the graphics so we (the losers) can enjoy the game too! Look at this. The top picture is oblivion on "Ultra Low" settings, it requires 2.0 shaders. Bottom picture is Oldblivion and requires 1.1 shaders. I'd rather be playing with 20fps than not at all.

Read this. Maybe you should read before you type because this is what overstatement has said about 3 pages ago. Read the rest of the topic and youll actually understand what overstatement is saying... Just because it isnt a problem for you doesnt mean the group of people that it is a problem for should be forgotten. I live in NZ and parts here are fricking expensive. Parts that are 100US dollars in the US are 300US here. Seriously guys you cant just think about yourself here whats the problem with having an option for people with lower computers?

so why cant we use OGRE instead? will it also solve the problem with the system requirements?

there is no problem damnit, stop being a cheapskate and go buy a 7100 or something.

Thats what I said from the start! I said that I will upgrade if I have to but then a group of people came in and said stop whining about this! I wasnt whining... All I asked for is an option for us people with older computers.

I'll take you guys don't have the money to spend on a new pc, so I'll make this only to meet the Recommended specs.  EDIT: actually is better than the recommended specs.
I've checked ONLY newegg.com

Corsair 1gb (2x512mb)ddr2 800mhz  USD67,00
eVGA GeForce 7600gt 256mb          USD99,00
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4000+ AM2         USD99,00
ASUS M2N-X Socket AM2               USD64,99
PSU Enermax 535w -                     USD79,99
             ---------------------------
Total       ------------------------>USD409,98

Oh noes what about a case/cd/dvd/flopper/HD/SoundCard/Monitor!??!?!?!?

Pick the ones from your current PC!

Read what I said above... Prices here from part shops online and other places are about 3 times that.

pwned.

Your posts are just stupid gawain. Learn to post on a forum.

[Gawain]

pwned.

Your posts are just stupid gawain. Learn to post on a forum.

the whole system requirement discussion is bs, especially since we had this question some times ago.
AND it is bs to discuss about the engine now, i always thought this decision has been made months ago. but maybe they were expecting to get programmers for ur script more easily. is the ogre as powerful as the unreal engine?

[Overstatement]

is the ogre as powerful as the unreal engine?

Is it going to look as good as Unreal3 games? No. But using the OGRE engine will negate all these problems I've mentioned. It also has new pluses like acutal ownership of our game and the ability to continually develop better graphics after the release through patches.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

is the ogre as powerful as the unreal engine?

Is it going to look as good as Unreal3 games? No. But using the OGRE engine will negate all these problems I've mentioned. It also has new pluses like acutal ownership of our game and the ability to continually develop better graphics after the release through patches.

So you say you're using Unreal only to get better graphics??

[Overstatement]

Even I don't know the answer to that question. But you've seen goodkebab's reasons for choosing it so you'll have to come to your own conclusions.

[Gawain]

So you say you're using Unreal only to get better graphics??

the most important thing for ps are good dynamic lighting possibilities while maintaining a good performance, isn't it?

[Tidenburg]

Yeah, thats why unreal is a good choice.

[Succubus Dryad Of The Undying Comet]

Why not use Pain Engine, then? It has good lighting....